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Re:Gaming on Wayland by GhettoComputers on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:16PM (#29559496)
I read it fine, it removes/isolates a lot of useful features, and doesn't seem better in many real world use cases it is worst, like clipboard, screen warmers like redshift, global hotkeys, and VNC.

I have tried these as addons, and they basically suck, and its complex to change them, and for what benefit? Some smoother graphics? I am on Linux, that is the least important thing. Basically if it doesn't give me real world benefits, I am unlikely to want to switch, and if it gives me more issues and less features for things that matter and isn't a drop in replacement it might as well be a scooter to my car.

Re:Gaming on Wayland by craftinator on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:32PM (#29559631)
> and for what benefit? Some smoother graphics? I am on Linux, that is the least important thing.

This really sums up this side of the argument for me (though it doesn't address the security features of Wayland). If I want to watch an ultra high definition movie, or play a game, rebooting to windows is a miniscule price. Almost all of my work is done on Linux, and I value it because everything can be made to work, usually with little effort. Wayland adds some severe overhead to that work.

Re:Gaming on Wayland by GhettoComputers on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:44PM (#29559771)
https://old.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/n3mjj3/native_vs_vm_b... you can also do this. If you want to use wayland without issues GNOME works well if you wanna login to another session, VFIO will give you full windows game support (Win VM will use the GPU in windows driver mode).

For anyone who wants a functional desktop on any DE, x.org is the best, and cannot be replaced currently by wayland in features or software compatibility.

Re:Gaming on Wayland by 1_player on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @08:21PM (#29560772)
> If I want to watch an ultra high definition movie, or play a game, rebooting to windows is a miniscule price.

So you're saying let's not improve the Linux desktop because one can just reboot into Windows to do desktop things? What even is that argument?

I want to have a nice desktop on Linux, thank you very much.

Re:Gaming on Wayland by GhettoComputers on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @08:37PM (#29560930)
From the thread, wayland isn't an improvement for most users. The thread says problems are made worst by wayland.
Re:Gaming on Wayland by encryptluks2 on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @11:25AM (#29568079)
Clipboard issues = wl-clipboard, screen warmers... Gammastep. Anything else?
Re:Gaming on Wayland by GhettoComputers on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @04:34PM (#29571907)
Do they have widgets? What about global hotkeys?