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Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by Quenhus on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:12PM (#29547363)
As others have said, it can also be done with a uBlock filter.

For example, here are my filters that block and remove terrible copycats/translations of StackOverflow https://gist.github.com/quenhus/6bd2c47e5780f726f0c96c0a2ee7... . I hate these copies that somehow manage to be better referenced than StackOverflow.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by RileyJames on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:44PM (#29548333)
Would you submit this to an the awesome list I’ve made for uBlacklist?

I love uBlacklist, but I felt the community aspect of it was missing, and vital to its success. I felt bootstrapping lists and GitHub repos was the most instantaneous way to enable a community.

I comment each time it hits HN, but beyond that haven’t seen much uptake / contribution towards building blacklists.

https://github.com/rjaus/awesome-ublacklist

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by franga2000 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:52AM (#29549306)
And awesome list is a great idea! I have a huge blocklist of those fake machine-translated e-commerce sites that just redirect to AliExpress. I'll try to remember to submit it later today
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by kriro on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @05:25AM (#29550180)
Thanks a lot. Pinterest and the Stack Overflow translations are a great start. I'm using that + *://*.quora.com/* now and feel like my web experience is already a lot better :D
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by xorcist on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:40AM (#29549568)
Isn't this equally possible with a uBlock blocklist?

I already trust gorhill, and a bunch of Firefox maintainers, with my life and my passwords.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by franga2000 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:55AM (#29549651)
I'm guessing you haven't tried it. uBlacklist is purpose-built for search filtering, so the UX is far better - It pretty much feels like an official part of Google Search. Next to each result is a single-click block button and the results can be shown/hidden with a button in the top options bar. uBlock gives you all the building blocks, but you have to assemble and manage them yourself.

As for trust, that's a more general issue. Personally, I can't imagine someone would go through this much trouble just to ship a trojan and I find the probability of their GitHub and AMO account being compromised quite unlikely since there are far more lucrative targets for such an attacker - including uBlock Origin. I guess there's always the possibility of auditing the code and installing a self-signed version with no automatic updates.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by pbronez on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:41AM (#29550948)
> Personally, I can't imagine someone would go through this much trouble just to ship a trojan

I agree it’s not very risky, but I can absolutely imagine this.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by ghoomketu on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:12PM (#29548152)
This is amazing. I tried extending this to remove all pinterest results too (the real cancer of the internet) but the filter doesn't seem to be working.. Any tips?

    google.*##.g:has(a[href*="pinterest.*"])
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by RileyJames on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:38PM (#29548302)
And here’s the same thing for uBlacklist:

https://github.com/rjaus/ublacklist-pinterest/blob/main/ubla...

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by alfu on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:43AM (#29548921)
I am using these:

    google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".pinterest.*"])
    google.*##a[href*=".pinterest."]:upward(1)
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by politelemon on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:45AM (#29549592)
Thanks this seems to be the closest. On the search results page the Pinterest results still appear, but without a link to the site, so you see floating paragraphs. On the image results page the pinterest results do seem to disappear.

I tried setting the upward() to 2, but that got rid of all the image results.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by ashleysmithgpu on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:23AM (#29550851)
Thank-you so much! It's been a disease on my browser for too long
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by jb1991 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @05:40AM (#29550250)
Excellent, thanks. I am so glad to have that pinterest shit out of my search results. Companies that try to take over your life, even in small ways, should all fall apart.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by naniwaduni on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:54PM (#29548386)
It doesn't work because = is looking strictly for a substring, it doesn't do globbing. Something like [href="pinterest."] probably gets closer to what you're expecting.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by detaro on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:55PM (#29548391)
(use \* to escape the *)
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by ItsBob on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:18AM (#29549448)
Ok, genuine question - Why do people hate Pinterest so much? I have no feelings towards it either way (I don't have an account on it but I have viewed some things over time)
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by DrSiemer on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:10AM (#29549720)
Imagine the following scenario: you need an image for an internal presentation, so you don't care about copyright. You find an image in the Google search results that looks promising. You open it, but end up on the dreaded Pinterest site.

You'll know for sure that there is no chance on above average quality or size. Hovering over the image will overlay a "join us" message. If you click to image you get a "join us" modal. When you right click, you get a custom menu, that does have a "Save image" option. But clicking that will just get you the same "join us" again. You'll need to inspector hack the image out, which can quickly become annoying if you need more than one.

Beneath it will be a whole bunch of also promising looking images, but scrolling down a bit will quickly get you, you guessed it, a "join us" modal. Clicking on any image there will get you to another page just like it, but this one often opening with the "join us" modal already open.

If you use Ctrl-click, to save your position in the overview that you inspector hacked the scroll block modal out of, tough luck: that behavior is modified as well. It will just open the new page like a regular click. Go back and you're at the top again.

The site feels like a collection of dark patterns hijacking your image search results.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by jb1991 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:00AM (#29550368)
The irony is that the Pinterest users who are putting this nonsense on their profiles are usually uploading copyrighted images to begin with.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by robbedpeter on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @09:14AM (#29551675)
Exactly this! If pinterest had a moral leg to stand on I might have some sympathy, but they have no implicit rights to the media they're spamming search results with.

Imagine if Instagram or Facebook tried the seo garbage pinterest is doing to completely take over image search results... they'd get shut down hard, and there would be screaming matches between c class movers and shakers.

I honestly think there's gotta be a kickback or individual level corruption involved, no other site would be allowed to break Google's image search functionality and reputation. It's not like they can't simply downrank and spread out the results. The pinterest situation is fishy af, and it's been years. Google image search used to be useful. Now it's annoying.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by ItsBob on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:50AM (#29549956)
You're right, it's been a while since I went there. I forgot about all that shit.

I'm sold.

Death to Pinterest

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by iamphilrae on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:27AM (#29549488)
My hatred is due to the fact that if you image search for something, e.g. a product, click on what you think is the product’s site, however you end up on someone’s Pinterest board. From there, there’s no way to get back to the original site. And the biggest annoyance is that the search results always seem to rank better than originals.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by post_from_work on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:47AM (#29548659)
Nuking Pinterest off of the Internet is what immediately came to my mind as well!
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by zibzab on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:12AM (#29549409)
Seriously, how does something so hated continues to exist?

Is some evil billionaire secretly bankrolling Pinterest as a cruel joke?

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by dewey on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:53AM (#29549632)
This is a classic example of the HN bubble. Nobody of my "tech" friends uses Pinterest, everyone who's not in that group uses it heavily for finding furniture, clothes or recipes. It's usually the app they use instead of googling for something.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by hdjrudni on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:14AM (#29549748)
My former manager worked there..
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by politelemon on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:40AM (#29549566)
Anecdotally, when I've mentioned my hate for Pinterest appearing in search results, several of my coworkers have reacted with surprise. They use it regularly, and mentioned something about pinning interesting results. Our individual minds boggled at each other.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by 4ec0755f5522 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:06PM (#29557739)
You know, maybe it's really good! I never considered this possibility because of its hostile UX.

Any service that pops up a login and won't let you access any content without logging in I just nope out of and have for many years. Especially user-hostile on mobile (Twitter and Reddit websites work really really hard to force you into using their apps and/or logging in on mobile, much more than on desktop). But maybe we're missing something and Pinterest is super awesome. Maybe I've been using this anti-user UX pattern as a signal for "crapware" but it's not accurate. Maybe fantastic services are hiding behind this pattern.

I'm not gonna sign up to find out but it's interesting to think about.

Or maybe I'll setup a VM for this and finally get FB/Insta/TikTok/Pinterest/Twitter, check em all out, and find out what the rest of humanity has been up to.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by aembleton on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @05:13AM (#29550096)
Google will have all those signals that people like using Pintrest and will keep it on the first page.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by aerique on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @05:08AM (#29550058)
As much as I hate walled garden sites like Pinterest, Quora, Instagram it is huge for looking up clothes, recipes, jewelry.

So it serves a function for non-tech people. Its format works for them.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by FourthProtocol on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:00AM (#29550718)
Using it daily for inspiration for radio controlled cars and trucks I scratch-build from styrene. I also use it for interior design ideas, fashion and if the odd pitcure of a VW T4 van build pops up I tend to save to a collection for when I start my own conversion in the spring.

I love it.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by astura on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @08:07AM (#29551097)
The only people who hate Pinterest are computer nerds, which are an extremely tiny minority of the population, and not Pinterest's target user anyways). Everyone else either likes it or doesn't have a strong opinion on it.

Pinterest is very popular in my friend group (which contains zero computer nerds outside of myself).

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by matkoniecz on Saturday December 18, 2021 @08:55AM (#29604489)
> Seriously, how does something so hated continues to exist?

Something hated by billions of nonusers (but not to point of outlawing it) and liked by 25 paying consumers can happily survive as a business.

And Pintereset is actually liked by many people who have user accounts there.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by therealmarv on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @09:43AM (#29552027)
Pinterest is a hate/love relationship. Sometimes it's like a kind of archive of things which have disappeared on other sites (imagine certain clothes you cannot buy anymore). I actually like that they really make a copy of the content. But of course this is totally non tech related.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by cptskippy on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @10:19AM (#29552476)
I wouldn't call it an archive, it's more of a fragment. There's usually no context or link back to the source so it merely exists as evidence that you're not insane.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by therealmarv on Monday December 20, 2021 @02:20PM (#29628894)
haha, I like this reply "... evidence that you're not insane" :D
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by deepstack on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:32AM (#29549860)
would also add IG and FB to the list.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by FourthProtocol on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:02AM (#29550734)
Sooooo so many hobbies have moved from forums to first Facebook, and the last few years IG. One of my girlfriend's workflows is research on IG, buy on Etsy.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by bozhark on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:30PM (#29548256)
PLEASE MAKE THIS WORK.

caps intended.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by zaik on Monday December 13, 2021 @10:14PM (#29547756)
An uBlock filter list is the correct solution to this problem. I want to keep browser extensions which have full access to all website contents at an absolute minimum. I only use extensions which are available in the official Arch repos (like firefox-ublock-origin).
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by behnamoh on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:29AM (#29548858)
I do that to remove Medium websites from my Google search. It's a disgrace to the free internet and the amount of garbage on it is staggering.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by allisfalafel on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:45AM (#29549923)
Sometimes there are good articles on it, scribe.rip is pretty handy for reading those few.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by bencollier49 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:34AM (#29549533)
Thank you. Came here to say the same thing. It's a blight on the Web.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by bubblethink on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:21AM (#29562401)
Is there a way to filter out sites that use their own domains but are medium websites ?
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by mellavora on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @05:15AM (#29550112)
also 'towards data science';
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by behnamoh on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @10:17AM (#29552434)
Yes, that too.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by bmlzootown on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:17PM (#29547389)
I didn't even think to try and do such with uBlock, and this precompiled list gives me all the more reason to do so. Thank you!
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by dtech on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:29AM (#29549841)
Thanks! These garbage sites have been sneaking towards the top search results the last months.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by NmAmDa on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:03PM (#29548086)
That's wonderful, thanks for that list. I hope that someone else have figured one of github/gitlab issues clones
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by Quenhus on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:31AM (#29549855)
I just added a filters list for Github copycats in the Gist https://gist.github.com/quenhus/6bd2c47e5780f726f0c96c0a2ee7... . List of domains taken from https://github.com/arosh/ublacklist-github-translation
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by 878654Tom on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:04AM (#29550391)
Created a repository for it which also includes the Pinterest list of uBlacklist (https://github.com/stroobants-dev/ublock-origin-shitty-copie...).

Easier to keep it up to date than a gist.

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by Siira on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:04AM (#29550742)
1. How do I subscribe to these lists in uBlock?

2. Often, the original website (Github, Stackoverflow) is not present in my search results; in such situations, I prefer seeing the copycats to seeing nothing at all. Wouldn't using these black lists be counterproductive for me then?

Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by dt3ft on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:34AM (#29549204)
Thank you for this filter. Much appreciated!
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by zelon88 on Monday December 13, 2021 @10:49PM (#29548004)
That is specifically the only thing I've ever used this for. The worst offender hides the "solution" behind a paywall.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by nxpnsv on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:32AM (#29549867)
Thank you!
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by sixothree on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:31PM (#29555322)
github-wiki-see.page is a new one I came across today.
Re:uBlacklist: Blocks specific sites from appearing in Googl... by Quenhus on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:43PM (#29555523)
I don't know what to do with it. You can't find Github Wiki results on search engine because of Github's robots.txt. The project is thus quite legit. Source: https://github-wiki-see.page/