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Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by jodrellblank on Monday December 13, 2021 @03:17PM (#29544061)
Won’t be long before they have 5G chips in and that isn’t your choice anymore. Kindles have done that since 3G, cars have started doing that, Tesla trains AI on all owner driving data, VW new electric (ID3?) will be their first with a mandatory perma HQ connection, IIRC.
Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by mavhc on Monday December 13, 2021 @04:13PM (#29544719)
Kindle with 3G was great, free internet globally. Never once showed me an ad, and most Kindles didn't have it.

When that day comes buy a monitor, or hack the firmware.

You can always break off the aerial.

Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by ravel-bar-foo on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:05PM (#29547309)
Cell phone connections don't need to use aerials anymore. The antennas in smartphones are often planar arrays or square-ish fractal antennas. From the outside they literally look like little boxes or squares. The casual mechanic might have a hard time distinguishing them from a chip.
Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by feanaro on Monday December 13, 2021 @05:31PM (#29545549)
> Won’t be long before they have 5G chips in and that isn’t your choice anymore. Kindles have done that since 3G

How do these things work? Do they have a contract with a phone service operator in each country in the world for unlimited data, or what?

Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by ravel-bar-foo on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:07PM (#29547329)
The device company usually has a bulk data contract with a large telecom. It isn't unusual for IoT device companies to end up as minor telecom providers themselves, buying bandwidth in bulk and reselling it to consumers.
Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by novok on Monday December 13, 2021 @06:30PM (#29546150)
I don't think you can buy a kindle with a cellphone radio anymore, and the ones that had them cost extra.