Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by chrischen on Monday December 13, 2021 @04:20AM
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A lot of stuff got prioritized for Arm/M1 compatibility... and fast as soon as the first M1 Macs released. Docker, node, in addition to Apple software.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by MayeulC on Monday December 13, 2021 @07:16AM
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> Docker, node, in addition to Apple software.
Well, to be honest it was probably macos+M1 platform support. Docker runs a virtual machine with Linux in it on macos and windows, not sure improvements there directly translate to server workloads. I am not sure about node, but it was surely working very well on ARM before that, although it might gain some optimizations thanks to M1.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by dboreham on Monday December 13, 2021 @07:41AM
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Although Node.js existed for ARM, often there wouldn't be pre-built binaries for whatever version/native dependency you needed. M1 has significantly changed that picture.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by KptMarchewa on Monday December 13, 2021 @06:26AM
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Tons of java tools did nothing, until tickets started appearing that X does not work on my dev env.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by thecompilr on Monday December 13, 2021 @08:38AM
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Huh? I am
developing natively in macOS for a Linux server using Rust. Everything just runs fine on both. Unless I need to go really low into syscalls I have no reason to be writing and testing my code on Linux.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by the_mitsuhiko on Monday December 13, 2021 @08:43AM
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You’re supporting that point though. A big initial move for ARM in rust was raspberry pi.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by thecompilr on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:23AM
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The post I replied to said M1 only gonna help user applications, not servers, I claim that it helps both.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by jbverschoor on Monday December 13, 2021 @03:58AM
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Just wait 1.5 years and enjoy the apple cloud..
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by jlawer on Monday December 13, 2021 @04:20AM
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As someone who has worked with Apple "Enterprise" / "Business" / "Pro" products before..... I'll wait. It will start half decent, get a push to 90% of everything you need and then slowly get rewritten simplified to a level that is too basic to do any real work or just abandoned.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by dreamcompiler on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:21AM
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Yeah no. There was a time (early 2000s) when Apple made half-decent server hardware and operating systems. Those days are over. Apple has vocally abandoned the server market, and trying to use MacOS as a server today is an exercise in futility. Too many things require the GUI, and Apple's intense focus on security theater makes everyday server operations a nightmare.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by jbverschoor on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:03AM
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I'm not talking about macos.. I'm talking about becoming an energy efficient cloud vm provider.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by GhettoComputers on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:56AM
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What is the criteria to meet energy efficient?
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by criddell on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:39AM
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What's an example of something that requires the GUI?
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by dreamcompiler on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:53AM
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Allowing full-disk access, turning on sshd, repeatedly clicking "OK" when you're asked "Do you want <freshly-compiled yet unsigned app> to accept incoming connections?"
If there are CLI ways to do this stuff I'd love to hear them.
Re:Intel seems awfully scared of Graviton2. Why pay for this...
by criddell on Monday December 13, 2021 @10:35AM
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I think there probably are.
I know sshd is controlled through systemsetup[1].
sudo systemsetup -setremotelogin on
[1]: https://ss64.com/osx/systemsetup.html
M1 probably enables the same transition for customer-oriented, proprietary apps. But it has little to do with cloud computing, except proving that performance and ARM are not mutually exclusive, thus providing more acceptance.