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Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by pm90 on Sunday December 12, 2021 @09:27PM (#29535892)
“What I’ve seen contradicts measured statistics across the country” is not a convincing argument. Most users of HN probably live in a bubble; important to look at hard data from reliable sources rather than personal experiences.
Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by stale2002 on Sunday December 12, 2021 @09:34PM (#29535934)
> “What I’ve seen contradicts measured statistics across the country” is not a convincing argument.

You are not understanding the other possibilities here.

The other possibility is that yes, it is true that it is not that hard to make it to this level of success, but the stats are still true, and it is simply that people don't do this, for other reasons.

There are a multitude of reasons, as for why someone might not join lucrative fields, even if it isn't that hard to do so.

For example, maybe they simply aren't aware of it, or they incorrectly think it would be difficult. Or maybe there a social reasons why people don't do it.

Or maybe, in order to achieve that level of success they would have to move, and I know that lots of people don't want to do move.

Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by rpmisms on Sunday December 12, 2021 @10:01PM (#29536099)
A lot of people simply don't want to be HTPL maintenance, for example. It pays very well, but it's hard. That's not acceptable to a lot of folks right now.

My sister-in-law's fiancé is doing it as a journeyman, and he's making very close to what I do as a mid-level SWE.

Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by ZephyrBlu on Sunday December 12, 2021 @11:14PM (#29536521)
> My sister-in-law's fiancé is doing it as a journeyman, and he's making very close to what I do as a mid-level SWE

This is not a very useful statement without a ballpark figure. Mid level SWE salaries range from <100k to >300k depending on the company.