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Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by Philip-J-Fry on Friday December 10, 2021 @06:27PM (#29516743)
I've played League of Legends for nearly 10 years.

Not to take anything away from Tyler1, because he really goes above and beyond, but it really doesn't take much mental focus or anything really to play it. Programming? It takes focus, you really have to think sometimes. But League? When I'm tired the game plays itself. It just feels like muscle memory.

It might take a bit more effort to play at a consistently high level. But I'm pretty sure it's mostly muscle memory for him too. There's very little actual thinking other than the big picture of what objectives to take and I'm sure when he's playing for 20+ hours he's just on autopilot for the majority of the time.

To put it into comparison with how little mental power it personally takes me, I like to watch a lot of Anime, that's Japanese animation with English subtitles. I can't watch Anime if I'm tired because keeping track of subtitles and what's on screen actually takes a substantial amount of mental power. But I can bash out 5 games of LoL back to back when I'm equally as tired.

Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by moosebear847 on Friday December 10, 2021 @07:05PM (#29517022)
Playing a game like LoL is like being in a battle or war.

Would you watch anime and shoot your gun with 'muscle memory' while fighting 5 ruthless, intelligent opponents?

A fight requires constant reevaluation of the situation and planning to win the game. If you play by "muscle memory" and win, you are playing against weak unthinking opponents or getting carried by your team.

If you played against good players, trust me you won't win thinking about anime and chilling. And it's very stressful because you're constantly on guard.

Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by wiseowise on Saturday December 11, 2021 @10:47AM (#29521660)
> Would you watch anime and shoot your gun with 'muscle memory' while fighting 5 ruthless, intelligent opponents?

Easy. At some point some actions are so engraved that you respond without even thinking. Example: blinking out on a slight enemy sight.

> A fight requires constant reevaluation of the situation and planning to win the game. If you play by "muscle memory" and win, you are playing against weak unthinking opponents or getting carried by your team.

> If you played against good players, trust me you won't win thinking about anime and chilling. And it's very stressful because you're constantly on guard.

You can use all those big words, but reality is completely different. I've watched amateur/pro Dota 2 since it's inception in 2011 and some pro Dota 1 before that. It is a team game, it is more about team cooperation and heroes you pick. Sure small things can overturn the game, but most of the time it is about bigger game than small actions.

Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by saghm on Saturday December 11, 2021 @09:20PM (#29526508)
> Playing a game like LoL is like being in a battle or war.

> Would you watch anime and shoot your gun with 'muscle memory' while fighting 5 ruthless, intelligent opponents?

No, I wouldn't, because those people can actually kill me. In comparison, losing in LoL causes me no direct bodily harm whatsover.

Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by MacroChip on Friday December 10, 2021 @06:41PM (#29516861)
There's a difference between "playing the game" and playing the game. I can sit at a chess board and move pieces around and say that chess takes no focus because I chose not to focus
Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by lostmsu on Friday December 10, 2021 @07:02PM (#29517003)
Is there thought? How do you know his skills are not due to a few hours (tens of hours, hundreds of hours) of intense training of a few basic rules, and the rest is just freeroaming like it is for every other player?
Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by arcsonnet on Saturday December 11, 2021 @05:54AM (#29519997)
Because there are other players on the other side of the game. They will be at comparable levels of "intense training of a few basic rules" (due to ELO based matchmaking) and they will be trying as hard as they can to beat him.
Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by lostmsu on Saturday December 11, 2021 @10:53AM (#29521710)
You can't assume high-level players are trying as hard as they can in a proof that high level players are trying as hard as they can.

Your argument doesn't make any sense in the scenario I described.

Re:Up all night with a Twitch millionaire by melonbar on Saturday December 11, 2021 @11:33PM (#29527174)
Are you a pro League player? Because if not this is irrelevant. Even the difference between leagues is substantial. And I have played since beta if that makes a difference. Sure I am not bad and I get that I could auto-pilot. But I doubt either of us are all that good; I certainly am not a pro, despite playing for a decade+