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Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by maximedupre on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:38AM (#29474612)
Or just take responsibility. People will respect you for doing that and you will demonstrate leadership.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by jrootabega on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:48AM (#29474814)
Cynical/realist take: Take responsibility and then hope your bosses already love you, you can immediately both come with a way to prevent it from happening again, and convince them to give you the resources to implement it. Otherwise your responsibility is, unfortunately, just blood in the water for someone else to do all of that to protect the company against you and springboard their reputation on the descent of yours. There were already senior people scheming to take over your department from your bosses, now they have an excuse.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by mym1990 on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @12:32PM (#29475515)
This seems like an absolutely horrid way of working or doing 'office politics'.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by geekbird on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @04:43PM (#29478586)
Yes, and I personally have worked in environments that do just that. They said they didn't, but with management "personalities" plus stack ranking, you know damn well that they did.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by melony on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:40AM (#29474671)
And the guy who doesn't take responsibility gets promoted. Employees are not responsible for failures of management to set a good culture.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by kortex on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @12:22PM (#29475381)
The Gervais/Peter Principle is alive and well in many orgs. That doesn't mean that when you have the prerogative to change the culture, you just give up.

I realize that isn't an easy thing to do. Often the best bet is to just jump around till you find a company that isn't a cultural superfund site.

Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by tomrod on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:48AM (#29474819)
Not in healthy organizations, they don't.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by foobiekr on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @03:01PM (#29477482)
You can work an entire career and maybe enjoy life in one healthy organization in that entire time even if you work in a variety of companies. It just isn't that common, though of course voicing the _ideals_ is very, very common.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by jacquesm on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @12:14PM (#29475257)
Once you reach a certain size there are surprisingly few healthy organization, most of them turn into externalization engines with 4 beats per year.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by tomrod on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @08:36PM (#29492804)
I love it when I share a mental model with someone in the wild.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by artificial on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:40AM (#29474669)
Way more fun argument: Outages just, uh… uh… find a way.