Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland

Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by eikenberry on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:54PM (#29453140)

There should be no gatekeepers to control what you can do with yourself. No doctors nor AIs nor governments have that right. I should be able to buy a humane means of death with no questions asked whenever I want. I am the only person who has the right to determine if/when I die, it is not their call. It makes me so mad that you have to break the law to try to find a humane way to commit suicide and that so many people resort to terribly unpleasant means. And while I'm glad to see progress from things like this and mad dog brewing in AU, it isn't enough.

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by dillondoyle on Sunday December 05, 2021 @05:14PM (#29453877)

I agree for ill and end of life.

But I think it's more complicated for otherwise healthy people temporarily passing through a mental illness crisis or untreated depression. Though there is a distinction here in it's a government providing the means. Anyone can figure out a means themselves.

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by DanBC on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:57PM (#29453173)

You have a right to life. You don't yet have a right to death. Given that, it's understandable that there are barriers in place for people who temporarily think they want to die.

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by eikenberry on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:27PM (#29453472)

My point is that you do have a right to death. You could understand it in terms of the right to life... that it is your right to control. If you don't have the right to die do you really have control of your life and the right to it. IMO the right to life requires a right to die.

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by DanBC on Monday December 06, 2021 @04:07PM (#29465730)

Can you show me where this right to death is listed? Because I can show you right to life in a bunch of international human rights documents, and from there in a bunch of law in different countries.

Very few countries give people a right to death.

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by eikenberry on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @05:32PM (#29479069)

As I put it, I really think it is implicit in the right to life. The right to life means you should have the control over your life/death. You don't really have a right to life if you don't control the most basic part of that, life itself.

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by baobabKoodaa on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:39PM (#29453575)

You don't have the right to dictate what people can and can't do with their own bodies. Furthermore, you should accept the fact that some people hold opinions different than yours and it's not always "temporary", yes, differing opinions actually do exist. There's many documented cases of people consistently wanting to die over a long period of time, you deny these people exist?

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by DanBC on Monday December 06, 2021 @04:08PM (#29465741)

> You don't have the right to dictate what people can and can't do with their own bodies

This comment is legally incoherent.

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Re:Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland by baobabKoodaa on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @04:24AM (#29470544)

> This comment is legally incoherent.

You're gonna have to be more specific than that.

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