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Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by lmilcin on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:36PM (#29452952)
Of course, even better strategy is to just sit at home and create a small fleet of drones that can use Sun's gravity as a lens to observe planet surfaces in nearby stellar systems with resolution in kilometers per pixel.

At least this could be accomplished within our lifetimes.

Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by holoduke on Sunday December 05, 2021 @06:48PM (#29454541)
Not very easy. Focal point needs to be dynamic and is very far away. Also the receivers are complex and not just a piece of mirror. Doable yes, but extremely costly. James Webb is nothing compared to a sun telescope
Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by lmilcin on Sunday December 05, 2021 @07:26PM (#29454785)
You compliment me by thinking it is my idea.

No, it is not. It is actually being seriously worked on by Nasa.

Also, they use the word "affordable". Now, in case if NASA this can mean practically anything, but there is chance it is not prohibitively expensive.

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2020_Phase_...

Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by tvhahn on Sunday December 05, 2021 @08:58PM (#29455345)
This is awesome!

Another reason to be bullish on SpaceX starship. Being able to send mass to space on the cheap opens up many new astronomical exploration avenues.

Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by echelon on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:05PM (#29453247)
Do you have any reference links? This sounds amazing.
Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by ben_w on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:08PM (#29453287)
Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by lmilcin on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:31PM (#29453508)
The one downside is that you need multiple missions to observe just single target. The mission could potentially be modified to be good for more than one target but at the cost of length of the mission. The path of drones would have two intersect two points that need to be reached to observe two targets, but that would require most likely less hyperbolic (meaning slower) escape trajectory.

The major benefit is that we don't need to invent anything new -- all required technology already exists. And the mission wouldn't even be that costly (at least in comparison). Just select the target, build (a dozen?) drones, shoot them on a right orbit into the Sun's gravity well and wait something like 20 years until they reach destination.

Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by mkaic on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:47PM (#29453646)
Definitely seems like the kind of thing that would be made way more feasible with the advent of Starship bringing down launch costs 100x
Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by mkaic on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:52PM (#29453698)
Holy cow, this is incredible. How have I not heard of this concept before?? Guess I'm one of today's lucky 10,000
Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by lmilcin on Sunday December 05, 2021 @04:59PM (#29453766)
10,000 only applies to a concept that reasonably is known to everybody or almost everybody before they die (like the fact mentos thrown into bottle of pepsi does funny things).

I suspect that only very, very small number of people are aware of this mission profile:)

Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by Archelaos on Sunday December 05, 2021 @06:26PM (#29454380)
You perhaps spent too less time with HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22952348
Re:Optimal Strategies for Exploring Nearby Stars by ant6n on Sunday December 05, 2021 @05:08PM (#29453833)
This has been talked about on centauri dreams lots of times. Example: https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2020/12/10/developing-focal-...