Most hold that life has value, and the desire to continue living t9 be axiomatic. There are very few cases where suicide may be considered a rational choice, and in those cases it is difficult to determine that the choice was made of their own free will, and not pressured into it by lazy family, doctors or government (dictating available treatments, providing appropriate pallative care, etc).

Wouldn’t the desire to die be proof that the desire to live is not axiomatic?

IIF you hold the desire to die to be rational. I can believe that 2 + 2 = 5, but it doesn't. The desire to die may be derived not from an actual desire, but an expression of mental or physical illness which could be treated in such a way that I (rationally) do not desire to die (right now).

Whether there are valid exceptions or mere failures of treatment is what most people are inclined to debate (plus the difficulty in discerning rational consent, free of pressure or other external failures).

hold whose life valueable to who.

the very consent required for life doesnt exist.

people dont consent to being alive.

holding someone who feels suffering alive would be considered torture.

when you strip away the selfishness that is keeping others alive, suicide might be the only truly zelfless act.

i do not think you need a complicated ai to allow a suicide machine. you treat it as you would the way we sane people regulate guns. cool down periods, background checks and coercion checks.

I'm not arguing against assisted suicide. I just think it is wildly ignorant to think that a computer can accurately assess someone's mental capacity.