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Re:100 years of whatever this will be by ignoramous on Thursday December 02, 2021 @03:55PM (#29422417)
> No, technical progress is key part of progress.

If nothing is rooted in people's / society's / community's / government's wants and needs, then what incentives are left for progress?

> Most innovators are not driven by the constant complaints of other people.

I think you may be conflating inventors with innovators. Inventors, like innovators, are a product of their time. The leaps and bounds come from invention. And invention follows necessity, as an old saying goes.

Re:100 years of whatever this will be by kkjjkgjjgg on Thursday December 02, 2021 @03:58PM (#29422451)
I wasn't talking about needs, I was talking about complaints.

Innovators/Inventors are driven by their needs, not by other people's complaints. Unless they need to stop their spouses complaining or something like that.

Re:100 years of whatever this will be by long_time_gone on Thursday December 02, 2021 @04:59PM (#29423312)
>Innovators/Inventors are driven by their needs, not by other people's complaints.

A need is the solution to a complaint, no?

Re:100 years of whatever this will be by birdyrooster on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:17PM (#29423523)
Complaints may be communicating needs, so if you remove complaint then you stop the flow of communication about needs.
Re:100 years of whatever this will be by kkjjkgjjgg on Friday December 03, 2021 @11:58AM (#29432183)
You can complain, all I said is that innovators are not driven by complaints.

Not sure if people complained about horses a lot before the automobile came along.

Re:100 years of whatever this will be by ignoramous on Friday December 03, 2021 @12:19PM (#29432476)
They sure did complain about slow transit. Of course, the key isn't listening to customer's solutions but to their problems, and then inventing on their behalf. This is what Amazon calls "customer obsession".

Jeff Bezos on learned helplessness, innovation, making decisions with data and despite data (2005): https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/WhnDvvNS8zQ