Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by caymanjim on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:36PM
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TV display quality is dogshit compared to monitors. Even cheap low-end monitors tend to have better displays. They aren't the same panels at all.
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Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by jjoonathan on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:38PM
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Nope. I'm using an OLED TV as a monitor on my main PC, and it kicks the pants off any monitor I've ever used before, including the 2021 MBP monitor I'm typing this on right now.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by onemoresoop on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:41PM
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Which one are you using if you don't mind me asking?
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by jjoonathan on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:46PM
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LG C1. I have to turn it off and on with a remote, take the usual OLED precautions, and tolerate its "smart" nonsense, but the color is gorgeous and the contrast is magical.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by KptMarchewa on Monday November 29, 2021 @02:32PM
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Does autodimming work decently on C1? It's really bothering me when I try to use my CX as a monitor.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by jjoonathan on Monday November 29, 2021 @02:53PM
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Agreed, auto-dimming is rough. I turned it off. 60% constant brightness for work, uncapped HDR mode for play.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by WithinReason on Monday November 29, 2021 @06:51PM
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How do you switch? Can you do it with just the keyboard?
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by jjoonathan on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:38PM
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I boot into Windows for gaming and when I launch a full screen game an "AutoHDR" badge pops up and the brightness limit is lifted. A similar thing happens when I launch a streaming app in the TV. I don't consume content through Linux because as far as I can tell linux doesn't support HDR yet.
Speaking of booting into Windows, I finally figured out how to make it painless: use a separate hard drive, not a separate partition. I wish I could go back in time 20 years and tell myself that. The number of hours I wasted debugging poorly written installers, bootloaders, and updaters exceeds the cost of hard drives by a factor too terrifying to calculate. Ah well. Now I know.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by 14 on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:45PM
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Any worries of “burn in”? I read the risk of using one as a monitor is that with a computer there is often static images like your task bar. Those can burn into the screen permanently where as if it is just tv the image often changes. Shows like news often have a bar at the bottom and was warned those too can cause burn in. Curious what your experience has been? Thanks
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by jjoonathan on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:51PM
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Yes, OLED care is a concern, and I take the usual precautions: no fixed menubars, no tiling WM, rotating desktop wallpapers, and reduced brightness (which isn't a compromise -- anything above 80% makes light-mode content uncomfortable, and auto HDR raises the limit for actual HDR content).
Even if I were not taking these steps and generally abusing the monitor, I wouldn't expect to see burn-in yet, so I can't really speak to how the situation will develop.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by uyt on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:55PM
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I used to have the Acer B326HK (32 inch 4k) which is marketed as a monitor and it still had really bad burn in
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by jjoonathan on Monday November 29, 2021 @02:10PM
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Isn't that IPS though?
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by intrasight on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:45PM
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same question
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by brokenmachine on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @11:47PM
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I'm using a Sony 43" X720E. IPS. I'm quite happy with it, can't complain. It's as good as any monitor I've seen except OLED, and the size is wonderful. I would like to have 120Hz though.
I will eventually go to OLED but 48" is the smallest size OLED TV available, and that's a bit bigger than I'd want on my desk.
Hopefully a reasonably-priced 43" OLED will come out.