Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by deltarholamda on Monday November 29, 2021 @03:34PM
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It's been many years, so this is old data, but I purchased a half dozen or so Sceptre flat panel monitors for an office. Every one of them stopped working after about two years. I don't remember for sure, but they may have been LCDs with fluorescent backlights, so the fluorescents could have simply failed.
I've always had a poor opinion of Sceptre from this, but again, it could just be an out of date prejudice.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by pettusftw on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:28PM
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As a counter-anecdote, I purchased a Sceptre monitor in the 20"-30" range in 2010 and used it through 2015 when I gave it away. It's still in daily use and working fine for what it is.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by memco on Monday November 29, 2021 @03:23PM
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I recently purchased one of the Sceptre TVs and overall am happy with it. The only drawback I found was the sound is not great: it is tinny and muddled (possibly because it's wall-mounted). I'm planning to buy some external speakers.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by syntheticnature on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:19PM
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Yes, I have a 4K Sceptre purchased for a song, and the sound isn't great (and HDMI-CEC doesn't work as reliably as I'd like to bring up the soundbar on HDMI-ARC, etc.)...
...but it doesn't have any of the smart TV BS. Still takes too long to power on, IMO.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by austinshea on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:29PM
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This is a very real annoyance for me too.
It takes wayyyyy too long to power/boot up.
That being said, I just hook up my own speakers.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by bscphil on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:31PM
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I assume the tradeoff is probably panel quality, right? I doubt they have OLEDs on the level of an LG or Samsung TV.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by austinshea on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:28PM
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I think the trade off is a subsidized price point, and associated specs, and an unsubsidized one.
I’d guess the panels are all pretty common.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by Matthias247 on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @12:03AM
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No they are not. Even the bigger players like Samsung and Sony have dozens of quality levels of panels. The highest quality ones e.g. have a ton of local dimming zones and smart backlighting, and achieve much higher contrast ratios than cheaper models. They also will represent moving objects with high contrast better. Plus, there's usually different levels of color calibration applied.
That means usually in order to get the best imagine quality you also have to buy the model with the most smart features at a higher price point - even if you don't intend to use them.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by austinshea on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @11:58AM
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Very helpful info. Thanks for this.
I often forget to consider stuff like consistent/quality back lighting, but it really does make a difference.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by dncornholio on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:36PM
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I could not find a product description. Stopped scrolling when I reached the related products and could not find a hyperlink in the sidebar. Is this just me stuck in old ways?
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
by austinshea on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:42PM
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This will provide more significant detail: https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...
(e.g. https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV/U557CV-UMRB-55-4K-UHD-T...)
e.g. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-55-Class-4K-UHD-LED-TV-HD...
Zero smart features, and all modern capabilities. It's also a TV, as opposed to a computer monitor, so it has the expected TV speakers and ports.