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Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by syntheticnature on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:19PM (#29385426)
Yes, I have a 4K Sceptre purchased for a song, and the sound isn't great (and HDMI-CEC doesn't work as reliably as I'd like to bring up the soundbar on HDMI-ARC, etc.)...

...but it doesn't have any of the smart TV BS. Still takes too long to power on, IMO.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by austinshea on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:29PM (#29388162)
This is a very real annoyance for me too.

It takes wayyyyy too long to power/boot up.

That being said, I just hook up my own speakers.