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Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by ianai on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:34AM (#29378248)
I think a kid who’s interested in hardware projects or learning programming might be a good fit for a 400.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by dusted on Monday November 29, 2021 @06:34AM (#29378625)
I thought about that too, but, after having used the device, I'd not give it to someone who's not already experienced with computers.. If that was their first experience with something resembling a desktop, they'd run for their tablet and never look back.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by ianai on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:34AM (#29379683)
Right I’m assuming it’s not your typical kid and they’ve demonstrated that elsewhere. It’s clearly an open question what is going to engage the next generations with Linux/computers.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by charcircuit on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:53AM (#29378365)
In that case you could just use a proper PC.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by Annatar on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:09AM (#29378886)
...Which would just perpetuate the PC-bucket monoculture.

At our software company we used to use PlayStation 3 as a development server running YellowDog Linux. Just testing our RPM .spec files was a gargantuan eye opener as to how many things we got wrong when we'd try rpmbuild --rebuild on YellowDog, and just because we'd write the .spec file on a PC-bucket server running CentOS. Monoculture is an extremely toxic, blinding thing, and it breeds ignorance.

Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by charcircuit on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:56AM (#29379264)
If you only plan on supporting one platform it's okay if there are bugs on other problems. You have to make assumptions when making software and it's hard to know if some random platform breaks one of those assumptions.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by regularfry on Monday November 29, 2021 @06:38AM (#29378657)
Not for the price.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by aequitas on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:50AM (#29379212)
Any old laptop you have laying around would do just fine and those are basically "free". It has a trackpad, keyboard, screen and speakers built-in, what more would you need. Only thing I'm worried about with laptops is the kids shutting the lid with a pen on the keyboard, breaking the screen. But so far they seem to manage that fine.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by dragonwriter on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:45PM (#29389059)
> Any old laptop you have laying around would do just fine and those are basically "free".

Not everyone has spare, fully functional laptops lying around “free”.

Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by charcircuit on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:53AM (#29379870)
By the time your kid is 10 most people would have already bought a new computer 2 times. He can just use one of your old PCs. You don't need that much performance to learn.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by dragonwriter on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:50PM (#29389082)
> By the time your kid is 10 most people would have already bought a new computer 2 times. He can just use one of your old PCs. You don't need that much performance to learn.

By the time my first kid was born, I’d bought a new computer...well, a whole more than two times. And he’s five, and I’ve done more than two since. But the ones that aren't repurposed and in use also aren't reliable (that's why they aren't repurposed), and while you don't need much performance to learn (a plus for the Pi because it's not a master of performance), having something trustworthy is valuable. (Sure, in some cases the reliability issue is fixable with replace parts costing more than a Pi, but then...)

Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by regularfry on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @12:23PM (#29406438)
It strikes me that your definition of "most people" does not, in fact, include most people.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by IshKebab on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:05AM (#29379360)
You can get a reasonable second hand laptop for £100. Pi 400 is £60 without the screen.
Re:Ask HN: Did you find something to use your Raspberry Pi 4... by tartoran on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:44PM (#29388300)
But you could hook up the Pi 400 to a large TV and you have some decent playground.