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Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by switch007 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @03:51PM (#29372884)
> than holding two buttons at the same time, then holding one, and clicking the other 6 times, waiting 3 seconds, and then clicking through the colors.

Why can’t it be a dedicated dial? If you run out of room, maybe it’s not so important

Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by saganus on Sunday November 28, 2021 @04:00PM (#29372968)
That's the point of touchscreens I think.

Being able to offer users a myriad of config options without the need for tons of knobs.

Not saying I like it, but a lot of people seem to.

I guess the ideal setup would be knobs for essential stuff like volume, AC, etc, and then a touchscreen for the rest of the stuff.

Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by wizzwizz4 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @04:02PM (#29372985)
Or just have six dedicated buttons for “everything else”:

  BACK |       UP        | ENTER
   /   | LEFT ---- RIGHT |   /
  EXIT |      DOWN       | MENU
Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by kymaz on Monday November 29, 2021 @02:30AM (#29377328)
Mazda and BMW have had something like this in some of their cars for years now. It's been a pleasant experience in the few cars I've used that had that kind of setup.
Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by soco on Monday November 29, 2021 @03:54AM (#29377659)
Here's how that works in a VW for calling back the last person who called you: right-right-right-ok-down-ok-down-down-ok-down-ok-ok. Not exactly what I'd call "pleasant experience". And you must look at the screen for the procedure, luckily they have a small screen for this in the middle of the instruments.
Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by pajko on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:51AM (#29377135)
Mazda did better: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-pur...

The central Commander can be tilted up/down/left/right and pushed. Also if my memory is not cheating, it has a capacitive touch surface.

Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by tokamak-teapot on Sunday November 28, 2021 @04:26PM (#29373200)
The Mini has a dedicated button to switch instrument panel colours. Or at least, older models did.
Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by bmakdbd on Sunday November 28, 2021 @04:01PM (#29372979)
You want a dial to “change the backlight color for the instrument cluster”??
Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by stirfish on Sunday November 28, 2021 @04:04PM (#29373007)
It could go right next to the dial that changes the instrument panel's backlight brightness
Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by ajsnigrutin on Sunday November 28, 2021 @04:10PM (#29373076)
You might be joking now, but:

https://www.ebay.com/p/20004588697

Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by seoulmetro on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:31PM (#29373786)
I drove a 40+ year old car for a while and it had one of these. Great feature, except that in old cars they always need to be at max these days due to all the street lights, etc.

Now it's been replaced with headlight moving knob in newer cars, which is more awesome.

Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by stirfish on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:55PM (#29374054)
My panel brightness knob is also the button that resets the trip meter.
Re:BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to ch... by switch007 on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:36AM (#29379100)
No, I think it’s a silly feature. But if someone decides it must be there, then I want it to be a physical thing, such as a dial