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Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by mrtksn on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:43PM (#29364334)
They did all that but Turkey is also a powerful country and important ally.

EU can stall Turkey's admission in the EU and they did that however they also need Turkey to tackle the refugee crisis, Russia and other issues.

EU got to the brink of collapse with 1 million Syrian refugees, Turkey is hosting 5 million of them. EU and Erdogan got a deal, EU turns blind eye to some of Erdogan's stuff and Erdogan takes back all the refugees that EU sends back.

Similar agreements are in place with the USA. US lowers the heat under Erdogan and Turkey keeps the peace in Kabul. Stuff like that.

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by laurencerowe on Sunday November 28, 2021 @02:58AM (#29367064)
> EU got to the brink of collapse with 1 million Syrian refugees

That's overblown. Support for the EU is the highest for a decade and close to all time highs. Brexit seems to be proving something of a cautionary lesson.

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/11/17/majorities-in-...

https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/2532

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by mrtksn on Sunday November 28, 2021 @03:26AM (#29367172)
Now the support is strong, it wasn’t as strong in 2016 when refugees were marching in Europe and EU’s proposed solution for the refugees was to distribute them evenly to all states.

EU managed to sign(actually, re negotiate the one signed in 2013 that Turkey no longer wanted) a send back deal with Turkey, now it’s all good.

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by fivea on Sunday November 28, 2021 @03:34AM (#29367223)
> EU got to the brink of collapse with 1 million Syrian refugees (...)

That's quite the extraordinary claim. Can you offer any extraordinary evidence that supports your claim? Because from what I've gathered, it barely holds any bearing with reality.

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by mrtksn on Sunday November 28, 2021 @03:47AM (#29367289)
Yes, check Brexit and Marie Le Pen, politics in Poland, Hungary, Germany back in 2016. The refugee crisis was a central theme back then and anti-EU politics managed to gain significant grounds thanks to it. In UK, they even passed the mark narrowly and left the EU.

Sure, the refugees are never the only EU issue but the 2016 crisis pushed EU to its limits and even chopped of part of it. That's why EU was at the bring of collapse and if it continued there was as strong probability that anti-EU politics would prevail in other(than UK) EU states too.

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by drekk on Sunday November 28, 2021 @12:52PM (#29371064)
One country left the EU and was made an example. Britain is worse off for it and didn't gain anything. The entire world had the pendulum swing to conservative governments, including the US which had even less refugees at the border.

I don't appease bigots. We are going to see many more refugees within our lifetime and the "1st world" cannot ignore the problem forever by sending them to different poor countries.

It's not the number of refugees that the EU can't handle, it's the fact that they're not white, english-speaking christians. We can bullshit around that, but statistically refugees commit fewer crimes and attain higher education in larger numbers than native-born citizens.

Germany, to give an example I can speak to, has a fertility rate around 1.5. Quite frankly most of the EU could really use the new blood if they could only get over the fact that those people weren't born on magical "EU soil"

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by HWR_14 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @07:44PM (#29374983)
You mean Brexit, which started 3 years before the Syrian refugee crisis and Marie Le Pen, whose support numbers moved from 17.8% to 21.3% after the Syrian refugees? That's your "major fracturing"? Meanwhile Poland and Hungary have been moving to a far right dictatorship pretty steadily.