For something priced as high as the TM3, TMY or TMX, I find it hilarious that someone would spend even more money just to bring it to parity with other the automotive "luxuries" such as sound deadening. Mind you, most of these luxuries are have been provided by other economy cars at <50% of the cost for _decades_.

Just as an observation I don't think the new money buying these cars understands or has ever sat in an actual nice car at the same price point. It's reminiscent of bay area housing. Crap quality, outrageously expensive, and with plenty of people with no other life experiences willing to defend it at a moment's notice.

I don’t think they’ve ever sat in a crap car either. Most of those are better. The four Teslas I’ve been in feel like I’m sitting in a bottom end Android tablet or some hospital equipment.

You assume incorrectly that people paying for Teslas are buying luxuries "such as sound deadening". They are buying an EV, 0-60 performance, touch screen operations, over the air updates, etc.

"I don't think the new money buying these cars understands or has ever sat in an actual nice car at the same price point."

I'm not sure why you would turn your nose up at people who have different preferences. I guarantee you that there are Tesla buyers who also own other expensive cars at similar price ranges.

We’ll see how the new EVs entering the market change things. Most of the Tesla owners that I know purchased it as their first car.

I will agree the powertrain and tech (not the god awful screen) are the best in the market at the moment. Maybe it’s just me, but a vehicle needs to cover the basics before anything fancy such as the acceleration will sell it.

Batteries are expensive, it’s going to be challenging for everyone to match the cost structure of ice.

yes, my overall feeling is that you can get more for money from other vendors, but they don't have the poop thing, so why even bother?

for them it was all about getting a cool toy and all the fun that comes with it, rather than getting a car

There are people who will charge between 3 and 5 thousand for you to have your factory-new Tesla delivered to them so they can fix panel gaps and a laundry list of the most common complaints before they deliver the car to you...

... and a scarily large number of people who think this is a reasonable proposition.

Wouldn’t this be a repair outside warranty? One would hope this wouldn’t violate your warranty, though I don’t see why it should?

A friend owns a 2020 model 3. The paint job was worse than my ass end 8 year old Citroen C3 so he spent the entire value of my ass end 8 year old Citroen C3 on a ceramic coating for it. And it still looks worse. I’d be so pissed if I’d spent on a Tesla and got that back for my money.

Sandy Munro asked Musk about the terrible paint in his interview. Apparently they fixed their paint process in Dec. 2020. Until then people had to get paint protection film, ceramic coatings and mud flaps to keep the paint looking decent.

Other than the noise sealing, that doesn't really say much negative about the car though (but that could be personal preference). That just says the person you know has plenty of money to customize the interior of the car in ways the manufacture doesn't offer.

those two are the ones i can recollect right now, but there were definitely other issues as well