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Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by Mikeb85 on Friday November 26, 2021 @02:35PM (#29353296)
Because Microsoft's raison-d'être is to extract as much money as possible from computer users. No matter how much they try to not be evil, no matter how many overtures they make to developers, it won't change the fact that Microsoft is basically just a hostile entity out there to extract as much money as possible from the computing scene.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by ninth_ant on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:16PM (#29354190)
Of course for-profit companies try to extract as much money as possible from their customers, that’s the reason they exist.

The issue is that once again Microsoft is abusing their monopoly power on the home PC market to make decisions that otherwise would be ignored. No one would download and install Edge and be force-fed ads for money lenders, except that Microsoft installs it by default and aggressively pushes windows users into it with frequent prompts and bogus security warnings.

It’s the bundling and abuse of their market power that is the issue, not their profit motive. In a well-regulated economy they would get fined and forced to change how they operate.

Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by tgv on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:28PM (#29354886)
I do not agree that maximizing profit is necessary. A company needs to take care of our customers and employees, and only make enough profit to keep doing so. More is just unethical.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by cebert on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:01PM (#29355171)
I used to have similar thoughts until I got my MBA. We live in a capitalist economy. Investors consider where to invest by comparing an investment opportunity to a safe rate of return. They need some upside (greater returns) to offset the risk of less certain investments. Maximizing profits or at least ensuring hefty returns is important for a firm to continue to grow and receive investment dollars.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by yoyohello13 on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:40PM (#29356766)
Maybe the need for continual growth and always angling for more investment dollars is a problem for society.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by jen729w on Friday November 26, 2021 @11:26PM (#29357399)
Of course it is, but we’re all greedy so nothing will ever change.

Where I live, house prices are climbing at about 10% a year. More, now that people can work from home. So you see articles in the paper where boomers say how terrible they feel that the young people won’t be able to afford a house because their house price has gone up $100,000 this year.

To the boomer I say, well, you don’t have to take the money. Nobody is forcing you to sell your house for $100k more this year than last. You’re free to sell it for less. Put your money where your mouth is!

Of course this is just a wry view, a letter to the newspaper. It’ll never actually happen. Because we’re all greedy.

Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by tgv on Saturday November 27, 2021 @01:57AM (#29358173)
There's no need for investors to get an ROI that's just over the inflation rate. Why would they want that? Because they want to get rich quick.

So let me rephrase it like this: do you like paying too much?

Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by Nevermark on Saturday November 27, 2021 @02:38AM (#29358356)
What are you trying to say?

Public companies are going to be priced on the open market based on their growth prospects relative to other companies. Their management chosen to maximize their growth prospects.

I think it is a fair point to say that "good" companies may choose to maintain the wind of customer satisfaction, goodwill and trust at their back by not doing predatory "bad" things.

But saying public corporations are not going to maximize returns is like saying mother bears are not going to protect their cubs. If that was possible within their nature, they wouldn't exist.

Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by cutler on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:50PM (#29354519)
And to think they now own Github and NPM. The Borg is truly upon us.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by sprkwd on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:14PM (#29354758)
And linked in and minecraft.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by judge2020 on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:09PM (#29354144)
I imagine some MBA saw a way they could augment the payment card feature to extract money, and bringing that to their manager is a good permanent gain for them (since they most likely won’t have to answer to the PR team).
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by lytedev on Friday November 26, 2021 @02:45PM (#29353393)
Because in the long run you make money best by providing customers valuable services and/or products. If you're screwing over your customers in any way, that is counterproductive to that goal.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by Mikeb85 on Friday November 26, 2021 @02:51PM (#29353453)
Maybe that's true, but these kind of actions are Microsoft's MO. It's how they grew, it's what they'll forever do. I almost thought they had changed when they seemingly shifted to be friendlier when they were trying to attract developers to Azure and embracing Linux and OSS, but obviously not. MS just can't not be evil. Kind of like Oracle.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by cutler on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:55PM (#29354573)
M$ "embracing" Linux was like The Wicked Witch Of The West embracing Dorothy considering how soon it followed their evil Linux patent racket and funding of SCO's baseless UNIX lawsuit. Beware The Borg, all you who are too young to remember M$'s glory days.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by thow-01187 on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:54PM (#29354564)
Haven't the past past 10 years been a complete refutation of this belief? Money made by hype, fraud, market power abuse or regulatory arbitrage dwarfs profits made by providing value, no longer how long the time horizon. Especially since it's clear that the US establishment's policy is not to prosecute and punish white-collar crime
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by themitigating on Friday November 26, 2021 @07:00PM (#29355631)
It's a business
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by beervirus on Friday November 26, 2021 @08:06PM (#29356095)
You just described every tech company.
Re:Microsoft pushes ahead with controversial ‘buy now, pay l... by freeflight on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:46PM (#29356803)
Not every tech company is a for profit company.