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Re:Science upside for Starship by simiones on Monday November 22, 2021 @04:30PM (#29311789)
> The 15th century colonists came to a place that was resource rich in whatever a colony could need: food, water, building material, etc. Martian colonists will not have that luxury.

But this is the key point: there were plenty of desirable things in the Americas. There is absolutely nothing of any value whatsoever on Mars that can't be found much, much more easily on Earth.

Re:Science upside for Starship by admissionsguy on Monday November 22, 2021 @05:05PM (#29312082)
The adventure and freedom to shape a new society (relatively) free from historical constraints might be valuable in itself for some people. I might be interested, but the quality of life and size of closed system habitats would need to improve by a large factor compared to what exists currently.

Also, alien artifacts.

Re:Science upside for Starship by dylan604 on Monday November 22, 2021 @07:00PM (#29313091)
>Also, alien artifacts.

Indigenous people artifacts. Let's not be rude. ;-)

Re:Science upside for Starship by trevyn on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @12:14AM (#29314818)
>There is absolutely nothing of any value whatsoever on Mars that can't be found much, much more easily on Earth.

Ungoverned land.

Re:Science upside for Starship by simiones on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @04:45AM (#29316124)
That's anti-value: it is much harder to live in ungoverned land than decently governed land. If you're fleeing North Korea, you'll flee to China or South Korea, not to an anarchy.