Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by indus on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:16PM
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Dont you think users with malintent abuse the platform irrespective of whether a card is on file or not?
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Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by encoderer on Thursday November 18, 2021 @06:05PM
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Malintent exists on a spectrum and in my experience operating SaaS, a credit card is indeed a good filter for users who have no intention of ever paying you.
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by kevincox on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:35PM
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Credit cards act as a "cost" of sorts. Credit cards are a limited resource, it is not free to acquire more credit cards. By requiring a valid credit card you are basically relying upon the verification that credit card issuers do to prevent unlimited abuse.
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by inetknght on Thursday November 18, 2021 @06:54PM
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> Credit cards are a limited resource
> it is not free to acquire more credit cards
If a user is malicious then they quite probably have access to malicious cards too.
Moreover, you're locking out users who don't want to give you their card just to try a service.
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by tshaddox on Thursday November 18, 2021 @09:57PM
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There are probably a lot more casual trolls than there are straight up criminals with stolen credit card numbers.
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by Msw242 on Thursday November 18, 2021 @06:37PM
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Virtual cards solve this. Create a card with $1 limit. Problem solved.
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by ipaddr on Thursday November 18, 2021 @08:21PM
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In one country but this isn't an option globally
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by netizen-936824 on Thursday November 18, 2021 @06:03PM
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Its not free to acquire credit cards? In what country?
I constantly get free offers on the mails, plus there are services to generate temporary card numbers for throwaway
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by micromacrofoot on Thursday November 18, 2021 @06:14PM
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bad actors are usually looking for low friction, it’s like running away from a bear… you don’t need to be the fastest person, you just don’t want to be the slowest
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by function_seven on Thursday November 18, 2021 @07:31PM
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You're probably not going to go through the hassle of generating or applying for 1,000 credit cards in order to abuse some trial period on a SaaS service. Maybe you do it a few times.
It's the automated bots that a CC prevents. Even with "free" credit cards or generated numbers, there's a lot of friction in going through that to abuse the service's trial period.
Re:I analyzed SaaS billing dark patterns
by micromacrofoot on Thursday November 18, 2021 @06:10PM
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in my experience it’s an order of magnitude less frequent when a credit card is required