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Re:PHP is worth learning and using by nicoburns on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:47AM (#29264067)
> Rust is great, but if one is looking for a job in systems programming, C and C++ is what gets one hired, regardless of their flaws.

That's true, but as a beginner I feel like starting with Rust is a lot more accessible, and could help someone switch into C++ later.

Re:PHP is worth learning and using by pjmlp on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:51AM (#29264092)
That I can fully agree on, after all it was learning systems programming via BASIC and Turbo Pascal, that made me adopt best practices in C and C++ from the get go.

So from that point of view, learning about lifetimes, modular code, and that bounds checking isn't evil are already good education stepping stones.