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Re:PHP is worth learning and using by pjmlp on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:21AM (#29263947)
Rust is great, but if one is looking for a job in systems programming, C and C++ is what gets one hired, regardless of their flaws.

Recent example, while Android has adopted Rust for replacing their bluetooth stack, the newly introduced Android Games Development SDK focus on C and C++.

Or Microsoft, despite all their security speech, Azure Sphere OS and RTOS only support C on the official SDK, and the new WinUI components are all based on C++.

And naturally anyone wanting to contribute to the Rust compilers, most likely will need to brush up their C++ skills if they intend to mess with GCC or LLVM internals.

Re:PHP is worth learning and using by nicoburns on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:47AM (#29264067)
> Rust is great, but if one is looking for a job in systems programming, C and C++ is what gets one hired, regardless of their flaws.

That's true, but as a beginner I feel like starting with Rust is a lot more accessible, and could help someone switch into C++ later.

Re:PHP is worth learning and using by pjmlp on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:51AM (#29264092)
That I can fully agree on, after all it was learning systems programming via BASIC and Turbo Pascal, that made me adopt best practices in C and C++ from the get go.

So from that point of view, learning about lifetimes, modular code, and that bounds checking isn't evil are already good education stepping stones.

Re:PHP is worth learning and using by asddubs on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:38AM (#29264029)
And even moreso for the embedded space