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Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by jph on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:43AM (#29226658)
Yes there's good taste. As one example that I've experienced: walk into the Pixar building in Emeryville and it feels amazing, and different, and better. And it turns out that Steve Jobs created it.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/inside-steve-jobs-mindblo...

Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by afavour on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:10AM (#29226904)
Surely this is just a matter of opinion? Someone might see this (which I personally agree, looks great) and say that it’s too busy and that a cleaner, simpler design like The Oculus[1] in NYC is in better taste. Someone else might conceivably say that design is too cold.

Neither of those opinions is wrong. There isn’t much objective truth to be had here.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_station_(PA...

Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by joris_w on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:48AM (#29226697)
That's your taste, which might be good taste, but how do we decide on that?
Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by fsloth on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:02AM (#29226812)
"how do we decide on that?" That's the point. There is no current calculus to compute this but I find Paul's argument pretty convincing still.
Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by Igelau on Monday November 15, 2021 @12:38PM (#29230045)
I'm picturing Steve Jobs on stage to make an industry-shaking announcement...

in a turtleneck tucked into his mom jeans, and glaring white sneakers.

Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by quesera on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:35PM (#29232341)
I think you're making a derisive judgement on his fashion choices, from the distance of a couple decades. This is always an error, but you should see his "vest" years!

As it happens, there's a story behind the choices of black turtleneck (very specific maker), Levi's (5xx?), and New Balance (993s). They are the results of deliberate application and prioritization of optimizations -- evaluated by his personal criteria only, of course. You might think I'm kidding, but I am not.

Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by Igelau on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:53PM (#29235158)
> black turtleneck (very specific maker)

Pretty sure that's Issey Miyaki.

> They are the results of deliberate application and prioritization of optimizations -- evaluated by his personal criteria only, of course. You might think I'm kidding, but I am not.

I believe you 100%. None of those words is synonymous with "good taste".

Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by quesera on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @11:37AM (#29242591)
There is no "good" in this equation, but clearly the decisions were the result of the application of large amounts of "taste".

But see above re: application of current sensibilities to historical fashion decisions. Always a mistake.

Re:Is there such a thing as good taste? by Jugurtha on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:54AM (#29226753)
Blaise Pascal wrote a delightful passage on good taste and bad taste in Pensées (circa 1667).