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Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by hmrr on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:47AM (#29224865)
Been using 2nd gen AirPods since they came out. Never had any connection reliability issues at all. They switch between my phone and iPad all the time as well. No glitches at all here other than one time I was walking past a large diesel generator. As for gestures, I don’t use them. I usually use Siri, my watch or phone as a control surface. As for snug that depends on the person at the end of the day. I don’t have problems with mine even doing a 5k run.

I’m not going back to having to untangle a pocket full of wires and car keys. Also I’m not having the cable tugging when I’m walking or running and having to shove the things back in every two minutes. This product was a life changer for me.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by kelnos on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:53AM (#29224891)
Ah yes, the "I've never had a problem so you must just be doing it wrong" defense.

Please understand that not everyone has the same experiences as you do.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by nicbou on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:00AM (#29224927)
What's wrong with anecdotes
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by kelseyr on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:10AM (#29224978)
Especially in response to another anecdote
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by croon on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:54AM (#29225227)
Assuming reliable witnesses, Person A's anecdote claiming event X happened is not disproven by B stating they've never experienced event X.

I've never had a harddrive fail, but I still take backups and assume others saying they've had problems are telling the truth.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by nicbou on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:43AM (#29225555)
Who says the goal was to disprove? It's just extra data.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by croon on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:58AM (#29225651)
That an Apple product can work might technically be data, but it's generally assumed from it launching. It would just be noise if everyone chimed in here.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by dylan604 on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:22PM (#29231440)
Clearly, you never owned an 2016 MBP
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by dangerface on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:34AM (#29227843)
My phone can connect to the wifi in my house perfectly, but not at my parents house even tho its the same phone, same make of router and both where setup by me.

Wifi depends more on location than the hardware or how you are using it. The anecdote that it works for you is fair enough but pretty useless in this situation as its just a coincidence.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by theshadowknows on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:26AM (#29225061)
The only issue I have is that sometimes either my AirPods pro or AirPods max will get confused and try to connect to the wrong device. But it’s not such a huge inconvenience that Id go back to wired.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by concinds on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:24AM (#29226170)
AirPods auto-switching is absolutely awful. Try downloading IntervalTimer on your iPhone. Start a timer. Listen to music from your Mac. The Interval app on your phone will make beeps when intervals end; when that happens, your iPhone will pause your Mac's audio and switch to the iPhone. It's borderline unusable.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by dukeyukey on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:30AM (#29229228)
AirPods working with Apple devices is one thing.

Third-party over-ear headphones working on my Android phone, Windows gaming computer and work Linux machine is a whole other deal.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by hmrr on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:48AM (#29229415)
That’s basically why I went full Apple. I value my time.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by dylan604 on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:21PM (#29231423)
Do you only have 1 pocket? Could you really not use another pocket so your keys and headphones are not in the same pocket to avoid this situation? I'm unfamiliar with any designer that makes jeans/pants with only one pocket, but I'm no fashionista
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by hmrr on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:24PM (#29232227)
I’m not sure I want to get into a pocket logistics discussion. I have kids. There are never enough pockets.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by dylan604 on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:07PM (#29232773)
so your dedicated headphones pocket has been reassigned to peanut butter & jelly sandwich holder, sniffles tissue holder, candy wrapper holder, neat rocks holder, and other daily fascinations holder. the contents of this magic pocket are never truly understood until after the washing.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by hmrr on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:59PM (#29233369)
Yes exactly that. Usually resulting in me having to scrape the gore out of the inside of the washing machine! :)
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by dylan604 on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:05PM (#29233442)
that's where i typically find my wired ear buds as well.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by hparadiz on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:00AM (#29224928)
What about a high traffic place like a NYC subway?
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by geocar on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:33AM (#29225102)
I can't speak for "hmrr" but I've used airpods everywhere: NYC subways, London underground, Bangkok's MRT, airports everywhere, and I never had an issue with them connecting. I was initially surprised when friends of mine gave me a similar claim because prior to them I had extremely bad experience with connecting or partial-connecting to devices, but they really do work that well. If yours don't, I'd expect a defect worth an exchange.

But I don't think it's just Apple's airpods either: Most of the newer bluetooth headphones work and connect almost instantly with my iPhone; I have some Bose QC35 that I can report the same speed of connection of the airpods -- maybe even a little faster. I suspect it's related to some extremely modern bluetooth version or feature-set that might be difficult to discern from the box, but I have not dug into it deeper.

This being said, my airpods sit on my desk next to my Jabra DECT headset: Bluetooth is only almost instant, but DECT is actually instant. I first saw them visiting a cell centre (inside-sales team) team in Seattle, and so I asked about them and learned "we wear this thing making cold calls sometimes every few minutes, all day long, and it doesn't suck" and that pitch sold it for me. I wish it traveled better, because if anything rings (phone, skype, teams, zoom, slack), I pick up the headset and it answers on the computer at the same time, and I'd love (somehow) to have that experience when everything is packed in my rucksack.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by hmrr on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:04AM (#29226417)
I regularly zip in and out of London UK at rush hour on trains and tubes rammed with people with wireless earbuds, mostly AirPods. No problems.

As stated the only time I had a problem was standing next to an extremely large diesel backup generator which was probably RFI related.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by alias_neo on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:21AM (#29227690)
Anecdotally, I have a pair of Sony WF1000-XM3, bought them at full retail for ~£280, at the time they launched, my daily commute in London was unbearable. The second I hit a slightly busy station concourse it was skip-central, or the right ear would disconnect for minutes on end.

Couple of years later, Sony has updated them half a dozen or so times, and I rarely ever get skips or jumps now. I have them always set to emphasise quality over connection, and they have worked perfect. You can buy them new on the likes of Amazon for ~£120 now, which is a bargain.

Sony just(?) released the XM4 which have a slightly better form factor and better codecs, so I'm considering them next.

Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by aaaaaaaaaaab on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:51AM (#29225202)
You’ve probably never used them in a busy airport lounge then, with hundreds of people using their Bluetooth equipment around you.
Re:Corded headphones are making an unexpected return by hmrr on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:49AM (#29229433)
I have. With no problems. At Heathrow.