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Re:Rivian valued at over $100B after biggest IPO of 2021 by kgwgk on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @04:17PM (#29180946)
Allegedly slimy Tesla has been scamming people into paying thousands of dollars for a useless FSD package for years.

The coast-to-coast test drive of a fully self-driving Tesla is four years late and counting.

Re:Rivian valued at over $100B after biggest IPO of 2021 by bink on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @04:26PM (#29181078)
When you go to buy a Tesla the online order form will ask if you want FSD. You click "no". That's the extent of it. They don't try to push it on you, convince you it's a good deal, or call you a sucker for saying "no". It's just an option like any other.
Re:Rivian valued at over $100B after biggest IPO of 2021 by kgwgk on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @04:50PM (#29181412)
You’re a sucker if you pass on this opportunity of making money!

When true self-driving is approved by regulators, it will mean that you will be able to summon your Tesla from pretty much anywhere. Once it picks you up, you will be able to sleep, read or do anything else enroute to your destination. You will also be able to add your car to the Tesla shared fleet just by tapping a button on the Tesla phone app and have it generate income for you while you're at work or on vacation, significantly offsetting and at times potentially exceeding the monthly loan or lease cost. This dramatically lowers the true cost of ownership to the point where almost anyone could own a Tesla. Since most cars are only in use by their owner for 5% to 10% of the day, the fundamental economic utility of a true self-driving car is likely to be several times that of a car which is not.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/master-plan-part-deux

Re:Rivian valued at over $100B after biggest IPO of 2021 by tootie on Friday November 12, 2021 @03:01PM (#29203908)
I live in NYC. If I could tell me car "go find parking" it would be a miracle.
Re:Rivian valued at over $100B after biggest IPO of 2021 by geoduck14 on Thursday November 11, 2021 @04:53AM (#29186287)
And it is ONLY 2 years away!
Re:Rivian valued at over $100B after biggest IPO of 2021 by jsight on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @04:52PM (#29181425)
Yep, and most people don't buy it and recommend against it for others too.

Base AP is really good on its own anyway.