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Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by myself248 on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:40AM (#29150379)
What we haven't figured out, is how consent should work with the rest of your family, who share most of your DNA. Obviously your body is yours to give consent for, but you effectively dox your whole bloodline in doing so.

I don't think there are easy answers here, but it's a conversation we should be having.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by sombremesa on Monday November 08, 2021 @11:43AM (#29151120)
How come this is a complete non-concern in other areas?

If you give anyone (say, PayPal) your address, you’ve given then your roommates’ address as well - since you share the same IP. Nobody cares, even though the third party can immediately begin identifying your roommates without harvesting their DNA, like they would in the case of 23andme.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by falcolas on Monday November 08, 2021 @01:15PM (#29152294)
Giving your address to paypal doesn’t give paypal the addresses of everyone out to 3rd cousins (i.e. related via your great grandparents).

There’s a slight difference.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by TYMorningCoffee on Monday November 08, 2021 @04:09PM (#29154311)
Giving your address does not give the address of your roommates. They also need the list of your roommates to conclude the address of your roommates.
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by sombremesa on Monday November 08, 2021 @05:51PM (#29155360)
Given that I know the mapping of an IP address and a physical address, I am unable to match one to the other?

I suspect you’re attacking a strawman.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by leereeves on Monday November 08, 2021 @07:01PM (#29155993)
Having the same IP address doesn't imply people are roommates. They might be coworkers, classmates, sharing Internet service, using the same VPN, etc.
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by Ekaros on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @05:58PM (#29182133)
Live in same general area with ISP providing CGNAT...
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by jjav on Monday November 08, 2021 @07:56PM (#29156384)
It is easy to move. You can't change your DNA.
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by ttymck on Monday November 08, 2021 @11:25AM (#29150928)
If we call that doxxing, isn't that the same as an identical twin who commits a crime being held liable for defamation of the twin who shares their face?

Edit:

Or, by the same token: a parent is liable for diluting the value of their siblings DNA because they passed that DNA on to children. I don't see this going anywhere.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by totalZero on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:12PM (#29157287)
Not exactly, no. These are weak analogies. The second one doesn't make any sense to me at all. Maybe I'm missing something.

It's like sharing your private key, knowing that others also use that private key.

You immediately make a large portion of your family tree discoverable.

It's the same underlying reason that we (most of us lol) treat revenge porn as a bad thing. You take someone else's blanket of privacy away without their consent.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by ghaff on Monday November 08, 2021 @03:05PM (#29153573)
We also routinely take photos and post them. Caption them even. It’s not just on Facebook. And you routinely consent to your image being used when you attend events. Which can identify you were at a place at a specific time.
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by dekhn on Monday November 08, 2021 @01:17PM (#29152326)
people are very quick to try to say things are really bad and describe it as doxing, but let's be clear: you drop your DNA everywhere all the time, there's no way you can prevent that. Your DNA is not private in any sense of the word.