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Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by boppo1 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:12AM (#29138022)
I, a layman, have had similar experiences. It seems tinfoil-tier to think my phone's mic is always on and running some NLP. If I wasn't loosely technical I would dismiss it as such.
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by ThunderSizzle on Sunday November 07, 2021 @06:22AM (#29138446)
But why is it tinfoil-tier?

It's basically common knowledge that if you turn on "hear me say OK Google" that it needs to always be listening to hear "OK Google". That's a green light to start parsing everything said all the time, which will be turned around for advertising. Because that's how Google makes money.

Expecting Google to use data to advertise isn't tinfoil?

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by theelous3 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @08:11AM (#29139178)
The tinfoil part is the parsing.

Actual nlp parsing all audio, or even a tiny subset of devices, is far beyond Google's capabilities. It's not a trivial task to process.

Your phone locally has some extremely basic recognition for "ok google", after which selective actual nlp parsing takes place.

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by wizzwizz4 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @09:48AM (#29139840)
But detecting “oh, this is voice” is easy. Recording the time where that happens is also easy. Knowing when people are chatting around the phone, and roughly what the fundamental frequency of their voice is, could make $0.001 per person. At Google's scale, that's worth it.

So long as they don't get caught, anyway, because that's all sorts of illegal. Especially at Google's scale. (I don't think Google does this… probably.)

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by theelous3 on Monday November 08, 2021 @06:12AM (#29148138)
What's you're saying is possible and what we're talking about are two entirely different things though.
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by BenjiWiebe on Sunday November 07, 2021 @10:08AM (#29140025)
The fundamental frequency of the voice doesn't tell you what words they were saying.