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Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by bitexploder on Saturday November 06, 2021 @11:56PM (#29136437)
I worked there first job as well. 1995/1996. Tough job, but not too bad. I worked up front running registers and helped in the kitchen as well. I was 6’1/6’2” back then and climbed in the play place tunnels to clean up kid shit and vomit, often smeared everywhere in there. Worked on an Interstate. One night 30 minutes before closing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers rolled in and ordered an insane amount of food. No one was even annoyed. It was impressive how much food they ordered. Honestly, I don’t remember too many issues or “Karen” types back then. The occasional upset customer over an order mistake or something. I always went home smelling like McGrease. It was not an easy job, but I suppose I was treated alright. I’ll take my desk job any day.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by bostonsre on Sunday November 07, 2021 @03:28AM (#29137489)
"not too bad"

What would you consider a bad job? In relation to my current not actually a job job where I do computer shit, I would consider my menial, back breaking, minimum wage first job to be bad.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @03:42AM (#29137561)
>In relation to my current not actually a job job where I do computer shit, I would consider my menial, back breaking, minimum wage first job to be bad.

Sorry, but nearly any skilled job could end up in the "bad job" sector, if your benchmark is "cushy IT job". Even Doctors. They may get paid handsomely, but considering the many years they have to spend grinding away studying and taking exams, and the overtime they have to do (in the public sector) plus the on calls and dealing with many sick people, that aint no cushy job.

The easiest cushy job I could think of is tram driver in my city. Don't need to think about steering, just watch the lights, and either hit the gas or the brake pedal, then push the buttons for opening and closing the doors.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by WalterBright on Sunday November 07, 2021 @04:09AM (#29137697)
The boredom of that would make it very difficult for me.

It's one reason why I didn't opt to be an airline pilot. Trying to be alert during hours and hours of doing nothing but constantly checking things would be very hard. I felt sorry for the crew that fell asleep and overflew their destination by an hour. They were promptly fired after they landed. While I know they had to be fired, I have a lot of sympathy for them.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by tejohnso on Monday November 08, 2021 @12:05PM (#29151408)
Same! By the time i completed a private pilot license I was already pretty bored with the actual flying. I thought commercial might be interesting with larger and more complex machines but talking to other pilots, it seemed not to be the case. Also, first decade or so was said to be a low paying grind.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by nradov on Sunday November 07, 2021 @02:23PM (#29142565)
It's obviously a self selected sample, but the airline pilots I've talked to enjoy flying and don't get bored. Their complaints are more about scheduling and management policies.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by WalterBright on Sunday November 07, 2021 @02:40PM (#29142725)
My father was an AF pilot for 20 years. When he retired, I asked him why he didn't become an airline pilot. He called it "boring holes in the air" and said it was just driving a bus.

As opposed to flying combat fighters.

If the pilots you talked to enjoyed it, that's great. It's just not for my father, nor for me.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by exDM69 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @04:23AM (#29137770)
> The easiest cushy job I could think of is tram driver in my city.

You are vastly underestimating how difficult it is to drive a tram or any rail vehicle.

It doesn't have a simple throttle and brake like your car has. There are two or three independent braking systems and the throttle needs monitoring of the current going into the motors.

And on top of the complex systems you are responsible for managing the inertia of tens of tons of steel rolling up and down hill in the middle of traffic.

Driving a bus would be much easier.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by xwdv on Sunday November 07, 2021 @06:57AM (#29138691)
Especially doctors. My doctor asked me the other day if I was working from home. Yup, doing like 4-5 hour days mostly. He was jealous. It’s tough being a doctor all day and though you’re well compensated it’s still so many hours of your life given away to work each day.

Really it’s hard for me to imagine any job cushier than working in software in the comfort of your own home. The work can be mentally stimulating when you want it to be and usually isn’t very difficult if you know what you’re doing, and it’s well paid. Thank god most people don’t have the mind or patience for it, else we might be paid far less.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by throwaway6734 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:58AM (#29139075)
Doctors also work in a highly credentialed industry that ensures that they will always be paid exceedingly well for the entirety of their career. Their job security is second to none.

A few of my partner's friends do "social media" operations for a large company and I think they work less than 10 hours a week while getting paid a

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:14AM (#29138805)
I can assume that's your experience in your own bubble (in the US maybe?) But where I am in Europe the market is a bit worse and there are companies who will try to squeeze 8 hours worth of coding out of you due to an oversupply of talent and a shortage of innovative companies to work for.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by xwdv on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:26AM (#29138863)
Not the case here in the US.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:27AM (#29138872)
I thought so :) I'm envious of you. You should rejoice you live in a market that favors devs so much.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by mehphp on Sunday November 07, 2021 @08:43AM (#29139374)
How often do you see Europeans work remotely for US companies? Is it extremely rare in your experience?
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @09:05AM (#29139523)
>Is it extremely rare in your experience?

In my experience yes but I live in small country in western Europe that's never on the radar of recruiters from the US, unless they're looking for a holiday destination :).

I never found US tech jobs open for remote candidates that were not some off-shore sweatshop kind of slave work looking to undercut the local US market wages with candidates willing to work longer hours for less pay than the local talent.

The good US tech companies never put their crown jewels in the hands on remote workers from abroad they haven't already known before or gotten through some internal referral.

I'm sure there are a few exceptions and glad to be proven wrong though but that's what the market looks like from my PoV.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by bitexploder on Sunday November 07, 2021 @10:39AM (#29140320)
Got any solid devs to refer with good English? I need to hire someone and I’ve been dragging my feet: http://stackoverflow.com/jobs/517498/intertoob-scanner-build...
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @11:37AM (#29140911)
Looks really good, thanks for sharing, appreciate it. The timezone requirement is a shame though :(
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by bitexploder on Sunday November 07, 2021 @12:30PM (#29141467)
It's not a firm requirement, probably just need a bit of overlap with mountain time for logistical purposes. We have one person who works in Spain already.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by bitexploder on Sunday November 07, 2021 @11:32AM (#29140850)
xwdv, the comp range is listed on the job post and it would be straight salary with benefits for a US employee. [can't reply any deeper, just email [email protected] and reference this discussion and I will find you].
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by xwdv on Sunday November 07, 2021 @11:29AM (#29140821)
Competitive pay?
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by throwaway6734 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:56AM (#29139058)
This is highly dependent on where you work
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by xwdv on Sunday November 07, 2021 @11:33AM (#29140861)
If a company is understaffed yes you might find yourself working at max capacity to make up for the lack of developers.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by lotsofpulp on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:41AM (#29138185)
> Sorry, but nearly any skilled job could end up in the "bad job" sector, if your benchmark is "cushy IT job". Even Doctors. They may get paid handsomely, but considering the many years they have to spend grinding away studying and taking exams, and the overtime they have to do (in the public sector) plus the on calls and dealing with many sick people, that aint no cushy job.

That is their point. McDonald’s is a bad job because of the bad quality of life at work and low pay. Bad quality of life at work offset by pay, such as with doctors, is not a bad job.

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by sleepy_keita on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:54AM (#29138254)
Maybe in your city? In Japan train drivers are basically forced to act like robots. There's actually an ongoing lawsuit over 56 yen (about $0.50 USD) because a train was 1 minute late.. not arriving at a station, but just entering the yard.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/05280713556b763ef4f8cf28fa...

Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by bitexploder on Sunday November 07, 2021 @10:32AM (#29140250)
I dunno. Other than standing a lot it was not a very hard job. I was treated like a human and my boss would let me schedule stuff around whatever I had going on. I was a teenager in high school though so I only worked like 15 hours a week. I also didn’t need a lot of money living at home. Mostly dangerous jobs, ones that break your body like construction, and ones where you work with people who don’t treat you well are “bad” in my book. Wages and making a living would be a problem is this was your main job though, obviously. I didn’t like cleaning the play tubes, but it never bothered me much.
Re:The fast-food workers’ season of rebellion by throwaway0a5e on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:05AM (#29138741)
Whether a job is bad pretty much is exclusively dependent on whether or not you, your manager(s) and/or your coworkers have an adversarial relationship.