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Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by hutzlibu on Saturday November 06, 2021 @09:01AM (#29129859)
"Feels like a good place to visit, not live. "

I am pretty sure if you came "to visit" aka a tourist, you likely would not have lived too long there to settle down.

Unless you brought some modern day magic, like a gun or a smartphone, to convince them you are send from the gods and not to be sacrificed just yet.

They literally murdered babies regulary. Why would one want to visit those, except for hardcore anthropologic studies?

And subsistence farming probably did differ, depending how far away the next empire was. Some lived in total slavery and dependency and some quite undisturbed pretty much on their own (there are some villages in remote greece areas for example, claiming to never have been conquered.).

Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by dang on Sunday November 07, 2021 @02:52PM (#29142853)
Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN. We don't need anti-Mayan flamewars any more than anti-any-other-$thing flamewars.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by hutzlibu on Monday November 08, 2021 @01:52AM (#29146656)
Seriously?

"I would have loved to live in ancient Maya or Aztec times. Playing ōllamalitzli with the boys, cracking open some cocoa, in the evening watch a proper offering to the sun god. Maybe a bit more violent and shorter than modern life but definitely more exciting."

The thread was literally about people wanting to enjoy human sacrifice and I expressed my disgust with that.

I am not anti-mayan, nor anti aztec, nor anti historic-german tribes who practiced human sacrifice, too (which would be my heritage). There are many interesting things in their way of life. But I am anti to people who like those cultures today, because of the blood and gore.

So anyway, expressing interest in human sacrifice, is ok here, but not expressing discomfort with that, because this might cause flame wars? Well, good to know.

Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by dang on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:40AM (#29150385)
That quote doesn't say what you're describing, and of all the things to get upset about on the internet, imagining that other people enjoy human sacrifice and then getting mad about it is surely among the most avoidable.

Perhaps it would be helpful to explain how this becomes a moderation issue. It's because we can't play both indignation games and curiosity games at the same time. The former very quickly drowns out and burns up the latter. HN is supposed to be for curiosity games. Therefore when people start playing indignation games (and that is certainly not just you—the temptation is ubiquitous) we try to get them to stop and to return to the intended spirit of the site.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by hutzlibu on Monday November 08, 2021 @11:11AM (#29150736)
" in the evening watch a proper offering to the sun god. Maybe a bit more violent and shorter than modern life but definitely more exciting"

Yes, maybe I should have just asked, what exactly does he mean by "proper offering to the sun god" in the combination of "maybe a bit more violent" but "definitely more exciting".

Because that just sounds like human sacrifice in that context to me. Along with other quotes like that in that thread. "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29129436" So clear, that I did not see much point in asking. So yeah, I got a bit "agitated" with that. Still, in my perception I got the mod warning, for expressing disconcern with peoples lust with human sacrifice. And those people did not, because they expressed their desire in soft terms.

It is allright. I probably just seek more other places now again.

Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by halfmatthalfcat on Saturday November 06, 2021 @09:07AM (#29129903)
I think there's some romanticization going on, which is fine to an extent.
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by quinnjh on Sunday November 07, 2021 @04:59AM (#29137962)
Seems like your info might be a little erm- spaniard leaning. Not dismissing the sacrifices but dont turn a blind eye to the roots of the west - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Moloch-ancient-god
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Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by politician on Saturday November 06, 2021 @11:10AM (#29130852)
Fantastic result. Just as predicted— there is no acceptable way to engage with this comment on HN.
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by AlotOfReading on Saturday November 06, 2021 @01:40PM (#29132179)
Because it's factually incorrect. The Maya didn't have a particularly notable tradition of infanticide and they weren't common sacrifices.
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by hutzlibu on Saturday November 06, 2021 @05:31PM (#29133981)
Ah yes, the Maya did not have the tradition like the inca to bury 100 human and lamita babies alive on solstice. And I am not an expert in the various rites of human sacrifice. But what I understand is, that a sacrifice is more powerful, if the sacrifice is more valuable.

So if this was the norm:

"Some other sacrifice related practices include burning victims alive, dancing in the skin of a skinned victim, taking head trophies, cannibalism, drinking a deceased relative's bathwater, and sprinkling sacrificial blood around sanctuaries"

then the only reason for them to not sacrifice babies regulary (but I am pretty sure they did so on occasion, too) would be, if they would not deem them worthy enough. So my point kind of still stands: why would you want to visit such folks?

Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by hutzlibu on Saturday November 06, 2021 @11:48AM (#29131198)
Then why did you? Did you expect a nuanced discussion from your statement?
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by politician on Saturday November 06, 2021 @07:24PM (#29134828)
I had hoped we might talk about chilling effects and our willingness to engage in self-censorship to please the collective.
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by hutzlibu on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:30AM (#29138129)
So something very offtopic. And I do not know why you bring it, nor your point.

People are arguing that my baby sacrifice point might be exaggerated and they might be right, so?

Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by jazzyjackson on Saturday November 06, 2021 @01:08PM (#29131908)
sir, this is a technology forum
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by dunefox on Saturday November 06, 2021 @01:31PM (#29132098)
Why? I certainly won't.
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by h2odragon on Saturday November 06, 2021 @09:38AM (#29130089)
We're giants, with no scars and no disfigurations. Wouldn't that be enough magic? Most of us are utterly ignorant of the most basic skills that would be universal in such times; further evidence that we must be if not Gods then the swaddled products of some form of divine grace.
Re:Hundreds of ancient Maya sites hidden under Mexico reveal... by hutzlibu on Saturday November 06, 2021 @09:55AM (#29130221)
They believed everything is magic and from the gods. And the priests interpreted the signs. So yeah, maybe the signs said for you to be treated as a king. And then to be sacrificed the next day. A special sacrifice.