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Re:How credit cards make money by magicalhippo on Friday November 05, 2021 @08:37PM (#29126288)
> Moral of the story: don't use debit cards

I use a debit card for groceries and such. However, just to be sure, my paycheck goes to an account with no cards attached. I then transfer small amounts ($100 or so) every now and then to the debit card account.

This limits my exposure to card fraud, and also has the nice side benefit of giving me back some of that "spending feeling" that cash has. If I have to transfer say three days in a row it's noticeable and I can think about what I've spent it on, and maybe slow down a bit if I know I'm running low.

Re:How credit cards make money by rootusrootus on Friday November 05, 2021 @09:49PM (#29126795)
My wife and I do this, but we still got scammed. My wife's debit card got skimmed, and there wasn't much money in that account but it gave the thief enough info to do a social engineering attack at the bank (USAA in this case). Took several calls before they found a cooperative representative, but they managed to convince them to reset the password, tell them the username, reset the PIN, and disable the two factor token (which is a Symantec app that runs on a smartphone). When the bank fails this badly, nothing can really protect you.

Sure was an awkward call with the USAA security department after they worked out the exact timeline and actions of the attack. They didn't really have much to say in their own defense. Cost them about five grand in the end. The really annoying part is that now if my wife needs to call them for anything on the phone they make her jump through many hoops to identify herself. E.g. she has to answer the credit bureau-based questions every time, plus a PIN, plus a phone password. We may move banks just so we're not stuck with an online-only relationship because of this experience.

Re:How credit cards make money by rootsudo on Friday November 05, 2021 @11:27PM (#29127251)
A waste, get cash back on credit cards for grocery, 3%. Not shocking or great, but 3% on an annual bill of $10,000 is a nice $300, maybe a week of free groceries?

Paycheck to cards not attached does not matter, ACH transfers can still be done much easier vs a EMV/Stripe read of a debit card.

So all you are doing is amplifying your risk without any reward.

Re:How credit cards make money by tehwebguy on Saturday November 06, 2021 @02:35AM (#29128005)
Wife picked up the Amex Plat right before the signup offer & annual fee changed drastically this year, offer was 10X on the first $15k spent on gas & groceries and 100,000 points after spending I think $6k within 6 months.

Only using it on gas & groceries, will average 16 points per dollar (approx 12-16%) when we reach $15,000 spent total.

The new deal is similarly structured but horrible in comparison, “shop small” is the category so it’s not realistic to max out the bonus spend without overspending.

Re:How credit cards make money by djbusby on Friday November 05, 2021 @09:03PM (#29126486)
What if you overdraft and then get hit with fees? Or even NSF fees?
Re:How credit cards make money by magicalhippo on Friday November 05, 2021 @09:07PM (#29126507)
My bank doesn't allow overdrafts beyond $10 or so, no fees except a few percent in penalty rate if I keep it negative for a while.

There are some edge cases where one might overdraft more (delayed transactions IIRC), but again no fees.