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Re:HashiCorp – S1 by Aperocky on Thursday November 04, 2021 @09:14PM (#29114396)
The economy of scale - at FAANG(MAANG?) scale you can have extremely efficient money making features that only takes a few engineer to support thousands.

For things that are completely software, it does not surprise me that millions per employee in earnings is realized - that's just what happens when you operate at that scale. And that's accounting for all of the overhead in personnel that scale entails.

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by selcuka on Friday November 05, 2021 @12:21AM (#29115409)
True. The number of engineers is not linearly correlated with the number of customers, but the number of features. If you have a relatively simple product and you can somehow still compete (niche market, patents etc), you can get away with a very low head count. WhatsApp famously had only 35 engineers and ~450M users when Facebook acquired them.
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by Aperocky on Friday November 05, 2021 @01:34AM (#29115797)
If they wanted, they can expand easily to a lot more - which is probably what happened to them inside facebook anyways.

Even then, they can still be insanely profitable per engineer.

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by selcuka on Friday November 05, 2021 @02:42AM (#29116123)
> which is probably what happened to them inside facebook anyways

I think initially they only expanded to ~50 engineers until 900M users. Even today they are estimated to have only ~500 employees (no idea what percentage of that are engineers).

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by capableweb on Friday November 05, 2021 @05:47AM (#29117170)
LinkedIn lists 1823 people working at Whatsapp, not sure how accurate that number is, probably self-reported so could be lower/higher, but ~500 seems off. Employee count seems to grow 1-5% month-to-month.

Engineering is listed as 25% of those 1823, operations 8%, education 6% and business development 6%.

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by robbedpeter on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:30PM (#29115148)
Given recent name changes, MAANG works, but it can be MANGA or MAGNA now.

I like "MAGNAM" if you include Microsoft.

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by gorgoiler on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:35PM (#29115171)
Ahem, and the G stands for Alphabet? :)
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by adeelk93 on Friday November 05, 2021 @12:14AM (#29115377)
I can’t believe there was a time where Microsoft wasn’t considered as big of a tech company as Netflix.
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by reducesuffering on Friday November 05, 2021 @01:31AM (#29115776)
It wasn’t about size but about fast appreciating tech stocks. This was pre cloud boom MSFT
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by dcolkitt on Friday November 05, 2021 @08:27AM (#29118220)
Exactly. Ten years ago people thought of MSFT more like INTC or IBM than GOOGL or AMZN
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by thaumasiotes on Friday November 05, 2021 @04:47AM (#29116820)
You shouldn't believe it; there never was such a time.
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by da39a3ee on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:38PM (#29115188)
If F => M then doesn't G => A? Which is good, we don't want to have to go around calling them MAGNA!
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by jitl on Friday November 05, 2021 @12:15AM (#29115381)
Every one of the Facebook companies is a household name with hundreds of millions of users. The same cannot be said for the Alphabet companies aside from Google.
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by adeelk93 on Friday November 05, 2021 @12:52AM (#29115596)
YouTube and Fitbit come to mind
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by johanj on Friday November 05, 2021 @04:59AM (#29116908)
Both are subsidiaries of Google, not Alphabet.
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by NicoJuicy on Friday November 05, 2021 @03:29PM (#29123742)
Chromecast Android ChromeOS

I think Oculus is much more similar to Stadia than something else too.

Additionally, all of those platforms you mention du the same thing: chat and share pics.

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by jitl on Saturday November 06, 2021 @12:31AM (#29127543)
You listed three Google products. Those are not alphabet companies. No one is trying to say Google is smalltime. Rather the point is, “Meta as an entity is comparable to Google, not Alphabet because it’s Units are Interesting”
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by NicoJuicy on Saturday November 06, 2021 @05:02PM (#29133773)
I listed 4 actually, all with their OWN household name with plenty of users.

Under the Google umbrella or alphabet is the same. Just like under Facebook or Meta.

Nobody cares about the exact legal construction of those products. Plenty of people still say FANG, where it's short for Google and not Alphabet.

Nice nitpick, but you obviously mispositioned your initial comment by putting the emphasis on household names and not on the legal structure, which is a strange argument fyi.

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by fnord123 on Friday November 05, 2021 @07:31AM (#29117779)
Oculus does not have hundreds of million users.
Re:HashiCorp – S1 by thaumasiotes on Friday November 05, 2021 @04:47AM (#29116825)
You prefer MAAAN?

While I'm doing a low-content post, here's a tangential fun fact: the Latin sequence "gn" (as in, say, "magna cum laude") was pronounced with the G nasalized. If magna were rendered in English spelling, it'd be "mangna". (Or, well, "mongna".)

Re:HashiCorp – S1 by denysvitali on Friday November 05, 2021 @01:28PM (#29122272)
OT: if you want to start with M, then the correct name would be MAANA