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Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by hammock on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:24PM (#29110764)
From Wikipedia: "the novel follows a subsidiary body, established under the Paris Agreement, whose mission is to advocate for the world's future generations of citizens as if their rights are as valid as the present generation's."

Is Climate Change the only threat that the body looks at, or do they look at other threats such as corporate power structures, abortion etc?

Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by dogman144 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:11PM (#29111300)
I get what you're asking about, but this question misses the forest for the trees of what this book is about and its impact as a read.
Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by thriftwy on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:27PM (#29110798)
Just wondering what's the abortion risk to?
Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by yeaman1231 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:49PM (#29111041)
"whose mission is to advocate for the world's future generations of citizens as if their rights are as valid as the present generation's."

pretty clear that the implication is right to life of a human being > right to privacy of mother

edit: fetus -> being

Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by thriftwy on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:03PM (#29111207)
I don't see how "bad" moral decisions about abortion would affect future generations: people may have better judgement in the future, nothing prevents them from effectively eliminating abortion.

The thing with climate change, as it is postulated, is that there might be no next generations, or that they will be severely limited in their moral choices by civilization collapse.

So putting both on the same desk is really misleading.

Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by Stupulous on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:23PM (#29112126)
I agree with your general point, but I think you're overstating it a bit.

Global warming doesn't pose a human extinction or civilizational collapse level threat in the next century. Tens or hundreds of millions of deaths, untold quantities of suffering, habitat destruction, and huge economic losses are within reason, but humanity would take that on the chin and carry on. 80 million young men, many from wealthy countries, died fighting in WW2, and European infrastructure took a huge hit. You can barely notice the impact on a global gdp chart, and it's invisible on population.

Abortion may also have long term consequences, though they would almost certainly be less severe. Genetics that are beneficial to humanity may also increase abortion likelihood- eg. educated women are more likely to be intelligent and to abort compared to the general population. Or the inverse, genes that act against abortion may be bad for humans at large- eg. whatever makes people fundamentalist. But these are just speculations, and it may even wind up being beneficial.

I agree that the two are not on the same order of magnitude, but it's less cut and dry than comparing zero and infinity.

Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by thriftwy on Friday November 05, 2021 @03:49AM (#29116439)
I doubt that intelligent women do abortions in any large quantities in developed countries - they should be smart enough to use contracepcion. So if you are into eugenics, abortion may be the way to go.
Re:The Pentagon’s view of climate change and the risks of st... by jazzyjackson on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:57PM (#29111124)
i don’t think protecting the rights of people who won’t exist until later has anything to do with the rights of a fetus/person who will cease to exist.