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Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by billconan on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @12:49PM (#29097175)
very cool! thanks for sharing. I don't have the equipments to drill holes on aluminum parts, I will probably need to use https://8020.net/ to build one.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by arnado on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @01:11PM (#29097514)
You might also want to look at the mostly printed CNC, which uses standard conduit/pipe for the frame.

https://docs.v1engineering.com/mpcnc/intro/

Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by AdamTReineke on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @01:30PM (#29097775)
Be warned these plans require you to drill a couple holes in the conduit. I managed with just a handheld drill though the holes weren't quite aligned. Definitely use a file or hacksaw to create a flat spot on the conduit where you want the hole so the drill bit doesn't wander as easily.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by Nick87633 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @01:39PM (#29097902)
Or a center punch (helps on flat metal too).

One favorite trick of mine is to print out 1:1 drill pattern drawings and center-punch through the paper onto my metal workpiece for all the drill locations. Fast and accurate.

Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by dekhn on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:58PM (#29102130)
Basically, 2D printers (you know, those $150 things) are exceptionally high precision and accuracy tools for making 2D drawings. I've been using printers for years and it never occurred to me you could use it to print a (for example) 10cm square.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by jacquesm on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:21PM (#29102280)
You can if you are really nifty do limited scale PCB manufacturing this way.

https://www.instructables.com/Creating-Printed-Circuit-Board...

Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by sokoloff on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:33PM (#29102722)
Fusion360 seems to try to prevent you from exporting PDFs with the free hobbyist version. One tip that I discovered was to create a CUPS printer on a Linux VM that saves PDF files.

(I found it printed slightly off sized if I sent a 2D drawing straight to the printer.)

Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by dekhn on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:18PM (#29103345)
Yeah, you have to correctly configure the output to get dimensional accuracy. but it shouldn't involve finding some magic scaling factor for X and Y that makes things accurate.

I've used Inkscape to make basic shapes, and pay for Fusion 360. TBH I've never actually thought to take one of my 3D Fusion models and use it to make a 2D template for drilling. That makes sense...

Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by kragen on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:20AM (#29104299)
Inkjet yes, laser no.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by johndough on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @03:37PM (#29099298)
Since the mostly printed CNC already requires a 3d printer, you might as well print a jig to help drill those holes. https://play.fallows.ca/wp/tools/3d-printer/mpcnc-drilling-j...
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by Tossrock on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @02:57PM (#29098858)
My favored approach to offset drilling / drilling on curved surfaces is to use an endmill. Doesn't wander, goes straight in. Of course, you need an endmill for that approach, but id you're building a CNC those should be in ready supply.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by no-s on Saturday November 06, 2021 @02:43PM (#29132732)
interestingly you can also mill a flat or indexes to mate tubes together. I’ve also contemplated making one-piece saddles to mate extrusions, filling the gaps with zero-expansion epoxy.

Tubes and extrusions you buy cheap rarely have dimensioning and tolerance you’d want to accept out of the box. To get what you need, best just to use geometry of hole centers, and adjustable fine parts.

I set a limit of 1/128 inch on any garage woodworking projects. This is 8 mil (thousandths of an inch) or 0.2 mm. Wood and plastics (and even aluminum) fluctuate from moisture and temperature enough to make this a lower limit of reasonable value, though I’m getting closer to 5 mil in router precision. It’s not a fine carpentry shop and I’m not making anything that really needs better than eyeball precision (hand marking) which would be about 1/32 inch.

Applying geometric dimensioning and tolerance to design has been a liberating experience. I’m not a mechanical engineer or even otherwise anywhere close to the industry so I really had no idea how to assess or compare designs.

Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by convolvatron on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @01:23PM (#29097668)
I use a cordless hand drill to drill and tap aluminum all the time (as does this project). adjust the speed until you are pulling out long ribbons instead of dust. you can use a little oil, but its not necessary. the only issue is trying to stay perpendicular to the work, but usually a little deflection doesn't matter. also pay attention to 'wowing', where instead of drilling your perfect round hole the drill bit starts to bounce around a triangle or pentagon and you end up making too big a hole. its often best to start with a pilot drill and then a final pass to clean it up. also its often easier to use a centering drill to setup the holes. it provides a pocket for the drill to rest in so that it doesn't wander, and you can use the centering drill to fine-tune the hole pattern before you make it permanent.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by sokoloff on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @02:24PM (#29098474)
To easily stay perpendicular to the work, use a tap guide block. You can 3D print one or drill one out of stock on a reasonably square drill press.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by IgorPartola on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @01:55PM (#29098142)
I picked up a used drill press for $45 or $50 (I don’t remember now), and a tap and die set from Amazon for about $20. 10/10 would recommend if you have the space.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by 0des on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:24PM (#29102306)
Believe it or not, aluminum can be treated the same as wood when it comes to tools. Any drill that can drill wood can drill aluminum.
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by mfi on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @12:57PM (#29097300)
Aluminium is quite soft, so it might work if you have access to a screwdriver and a step drill
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by haliskerbas on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @12:58PM (#29097317)
I’m not an expert here but I’ve heard 8020 is expensive enough such that purchasing a drill press would probably be cheaper, if feasible, correct?
Re:Show HN: I built a CNC-machine from scratch, using 40x 3D... by genewitch on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @02:01PM (#29098226)
There is also handheld drill press rigs that may be useful.