Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by endisneigh on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:57AM
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Why would the government fund news criticizing it, unless you had a different definition of publicly in mind?
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Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by allendoerfer on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:01AM
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How do you think courts or parliaments are funded? The same argument applies here. Why should the fourth power be any different than the second or third?
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by Ajedi32 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:19AM
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Fair point, but consider that the separation of powers between the legislative and judicial branches of government is enforced by the constitution. Without a constitutional amendment, a fourth "public information" branch would have no such protection.
Furthermore, consider that these days even the courts (which are supposed to be politically neutral) have become highly politicized. I can't think of any reason why a supposedly neutral fourth branch of government would be any better in that regard.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by allendoerfer on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:01AM
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I do not know for sure about the US constitution, but my constitution already has freedom of press in it. I guess the press would have to distribute the money by themselves, the government would just hand it over.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by endisneigh on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:17AM
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I’m not making an argument, I’m asking why would the government do this, now especially.
Why not maintain the status quo?
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by MichaelBurge on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:03AM
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The government funds a Supreme Court that rules to overturn its own legislation, often criticizing it in the process.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by pietrovismara on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:04AM
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Why would private investors fund news criticizing them?
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by jefftk on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:09AM
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As long as you have many different news outlets owned by different investors this should be ok?
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by Miner49er on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:11AM
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Except wealthy people still own the vast majority, so news will generally favor the wealthy.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by pietrovismara on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:30AM
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The problem is that the interests of the private investors converge. The best we can hope from them is to fight each other, but they won't ever attack the system that keeps them all rich.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by spacemanmatt on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:08AM
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The public should not care why its government might not like to fund news criticizing it. Just governments tolerate and respond to criticism.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by tata71 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:00AM
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propublica.org
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by pietrovismara on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:51AM
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The "about us"[0] page is a bit hidden but explains well the concept.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by throwaway277360 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:02AM
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Exactly. If the King paid for the newspaper, he would de-fund them if they reported news that went against the King. The fourth estate must remain independent.
Re:Ban Pay to View Content on Hacker News?
by pietrovismara on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:32AM
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The same exact statement is true for private ownership. The difference is that with public funding you can legislate to prevent governments to interfere with the news outlets. When they are privately owned on the other hand, you have no control over it.