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Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by dylan604 on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:12PM (#29071510)
>what people generally think of the company

which is what exactly? if they didn't like it, they'd be leaving in droves. tech nerds are really the only ones upset about anything that FB has done/is doing.

instead, the average person looks at what they get from FB. most of them never, not once, think at about what cost. to them it is free to use, and that's all that matters. raising privacy concerns goes no where. manipulating people's emotions isn't really doing much negatively to FB either. addicts are like that though. deep down, they might actually be aware that what they are doing is not good for them, but that isn't strong enough to fight the addiction.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by lost-found on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:15PM (#29071559)
The majority of the public has a negative view on Facebook: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/poll-america...

This was from 2019 and their public image has definitely not been improving. So to say it’s “only tech nerds” is a straight up lie.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by buitreVirtual on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:33PM (#29071825)
The parallels with the tobacco industry continue to amaze me. People viewed that industry very negatively but continued to smoke even after all revelations about their lobbying and its health consequences came to light. It has taken decades for the number of smokers to decline substantially. I imagine that FB will similarly die a very slow death over the next 10-20 years, and even then it won't die completely (but it will be replaced by other toxic social media corporations).
Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by rightbyte on Monday November 01, 2021 @04:56PM (#29073001)
I guess the point is that both are addictive?
Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by dylan604 on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:26PM (#29071728)
It's not a lie. People can have a negative view of something and continue to do that something. They can also have that negative view without truly understanding why they have that view. People are actively trying to mislead polls with answers they think the poll is looking for, or just false info to skew numbers. FB is in the news with negative stories, so they repeat those when asked even without thinking about why.

If you asked someone about a teacher or some other adult trying to manipulate a kid, they'd obviously say that it is bad. Telling them FB is doing it with what posts they see, they don't respond the same way. They just don't get how an "al-go-rythym" can be so bad. They don't truly understand the ramifications of the hoovering up all of the data they do. They shrug their shoulders and say things like they are okay with it as long as it's not real money.

So, I stand by my stance saying it is only tech nerds that truly get what is going on here.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by lost-found on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:30PM (#29071770)
That’s not what you said, you said “tech nerds are really the only ones upset about anything that FB has done/is doing” which the article I provided proves that’s not accurate. Move the goalposts all you want, I don’t care, but it is certainly not only “tech nerds” that disprove of what FB is doing.
Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by dylan604 on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:50PM (#29072065)
Maybe. Wasn't my intent, but let's allow the conversation to move past that.

The mass populace is not stopping their use of FB regardless of what's in the news or what these polls say about their views of FB. From the evidence, one can only surmise that people don't truly care what FB does. Most addicts don't care what their drug dealer does as long as they can get their fix when they need it.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by Liquix on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:35PM (#29071859)
Does the majority of the public know that Instagram == Facebook, though? Genuinely curious - non-tech folks do seem to love talking about how awful Facebook is and how they don't use it anymore, but then comes the scrolling through Instagram for 6 hours..
Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by takeda on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:50PM (#29072072)
They started putting their brand on other products and last week they realized that maybe it wasn't a good idea, so they renamed to Meta.

So now we will have

Instagram by Meta, WhatsApp by Meta, Occulus (actually Metaverse) by Meta

Ignorance is bliss.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by mattmcknight on Monday November 01, 2021 @05:48PM (#29073614)
Are you spreading misinformation on social media (assuming HN qualifies)? https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5794861-19093-NBCWSJ...

Look at the poll yourself, linked at the bottom of the article. Facebook 36% positive, 33% negative.

Of course their public image has not been improving, as there is high frequency campaign from newspapers and TV news to attack their competition. CNN in particularly has wanted to deflect blame to Facebook for all of the free airtime CNN gave Trump in 2016. However, it seems to be quite a stretch to extrapolate from 2019 survey that listed 33% negatives for Facebook.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by mdoms on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:38PM (#29071900)
> if they didn't like it, they'd be leaving in droves

It's 2021, if you really, genuinely don't understand the power of network effects by now then there truly is no hope for you.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by dylan604 on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:55PM (#29072141)
I think Jan 6 and the Big Lie are pretty clear evidence of the power of network effects. To claim I don't understand them is you trying to twist a narrative.

I actually anticipated your diatribe, but decided against making that part of my original comment. Yes, there's "no where" else for them to go blah blah blah. However, some people do actually decide to walk away from it for their own personal health/sanity regardless of how it affects relationships from not being on the platform. We see these comments all the time about "I quit FB x years ago". I'm one of them because of what I know about FB.

Re:As teens left Facebook, it planned to target 6-year-olds,... by s1artibartfast on Monday November 01, 2021 @04:29PM (#29072625)
The network effect comes with the network. On net, people like the network.