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Re:Women are rejecting marriage in Asia. The social implicat... by csomar on Saturday August 20, 2011 @07:26AM (#2906407)
Tunisia is self-destructing, has one of the world highest divorce rate, slow birth rate that will make it disappear if not solved early, more than 10% of the population working/living abroad, and enough social/life mess that I/my friends want to somehow leave the country and live in another place.

Yet, we did no wars, made no commercial/art explosion (even food we don't produce).

It's not about wars, allies or anything else. I summarize it to the following:

- Justice: Yes, justice is point number one. You must have justice.

- Values: That's why religion works, it keeps values deep inside and transmit them from a generation to another.

- Education: To avoid mess, and poverty.

Military? No, you don't really need it. You need values. Look at 2006 war between Isreal and a few folks in Huzb Allah. Isreal has the strongest military in the region, along with support from the USA and Liban (gov), yet they failed.

Re:Women are rejecting marriage in Asia. The social implicat... by icebraining on Saturday August 20, 2011 @08:35AM (#2906499)
>- Values: That's why religion works, it keeps values deep inside and transmit them from a generation to another.

More people have died on armed conflicts in the name of religion than for any other reason. National Socialism, for example, is a drop in the bucket compared to it.

In the 'States, non-religious people are much less likely to be in jail.

Religion is great at transmitting values, no doubt, but it's usually the wrong ones.

Re:Women are rejecting marriage in Asia. The social implicat... by cosgroveb on Saturday August 20, 2011 @10:12AM (#2906663)
Let's not turn this into an atheism circle-jerk. I really don't come to Hacker News for this...
Re:Women are rejecting marriage in Asia. The social implicat... by neutronicus on Saturday August 20, 2011 @10:47AM (#2906745)
You have no idea what the relevant numbers are. The estimated loss of life during the Crusades ranges from 3-10 million lives. Current estimates place the Russian loss of life alone from WWII at 19.5 million.
Re:Women are rejecting marriage in Asia. The social implicat... by icebraining on Saturday August 20, 2011 @01:51PM (#2907204)
This[1] page puts the sum of deaths of religious wars at 800 million.

[1]: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatz.htm