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Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by antman on Saturday October 30, 2021 @03:27AM (#29046787)
I will second this. At some point a few decades ago I assisted on studying EU policy plans regarding sustainability. The idea was that city and town design was supposed to have "kernels" of social activity accross their boundaries e.g. shops, schools, businesess including specifically large businesses mostly on the services sector.

Also in the EU country I live in schools are managed centrally and equally, so there is no such thing as a "good school district" I read happening in other countries, which seems to expand inequality and cause financial hardship to their population for no reason other than the ideological assumption that central planning is to be avoided.

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by brongondwana on Saturday October 30, 2021 @03:52AM (#29046900)
> so there is no such thing as a "good school district"

Is this actually legit full true? It might be less of a gradient than other places, but in our two years in Norway our children went to two different public schools which were in immediately adjacent suburbs - both good locations, and there was a definite difference in the management of the schools which was visible through all our interactions with them.

The second school was clearly better in our experience, despite being part of the same system.

Norway isn't "EU" for those purposes, but I suspect it's similar. The same way that different hire car offices or different pizza parlours in the same "chain" can have quite different quality despite theoretically operating under the same policies.

(edited to add)

While these things, in theory, normalise out over time as staffing changes in individual schools or individual franchisees - your kids are often only at each school for a handful of years, so there'll definitely be some attempt to find the better ones based on what you hear from parents of kids a year or two ahead... and those with enough money to just move house into the "best" zone will still get their kids into the better school.

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by jhgb on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:23AM (#29048227)
I don't know about Norway but in the Czech Republic, there's no "school districts" in the first place, so that would be why there's no "good school district" here. Schooling simply doesn't have geographic boundaries here.
Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by Factorium on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:55AM (#29048399)
In the USA and other multicultural countries, a 'good school district' is basically one populated by middle class White and East Asian families: parents who value education and have received it themselves, and children who will not be disruptive in class.

Czechia doesn't have multiculturalism so it therefore doesn't have this concept.

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by jhgb on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:57AM (#29048413)
> a 'good school district' is basically one populated by middle class White and East Asian families

So that would be all our schools. :) (Czechs and Vietnamese, respectively)

> and children who will not be disruptive in class

In my experience that seems to depend more on the type of school rather than on location. Gymnasia would be expected to have better-behaved students than vocational schools, even if the students come from the same region. I suspect that has a lot to do with entrance examinations. If you can pass the entrance examination for a Gymnasium, you're much less likely to be someone who had been disruptive in class in the past, and consequently also not likely to be disruptive in class in your new school.

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by def_true_false on Saturday October 30, 2021 @05:39PM (#29052490)
European countries also have good and bad schools, they just don't constrain attendance geographically. Usually you only need good test scores to get into the better schools, see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_(school)
Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by eloisant on Saturday October 30, 2021 @03:51PM (#29051812)
It's not about multiculturalism but about social classes.

Do Czechia have social classes? If yes do they live in different neighborhoods?

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by brongondwana on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:31AM (#29048276)
Interesting. How do you decide which school a child goes to? Presumably there are limits on how many places are at each school, and you need some way to make sure that a child doesn't wind up with the only place left for them being on the other side of a city - so you'd have some degree of locality.

Here in Melbourne, Australia - many schools allow some out-of-district students - as a percentage of their total enrollment - but pretty much all public schools are required to make a place available to any student inside their district (which are drawn based on distances between schools, so they're sometimes pretty weird for transport)

http://www.schoolcatchment.com.au/?p=5730

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by jhgb on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:43AM (#29048332)
> How do you decide which school a child goes to?

It depends on which school you like. In case of high schools, if you choose a vocational high school (which teaches a specific craft or a group of crafts), as opposed to a gymnasium (a school that prepares you for further university studies), it also depends on your intended future profession.

> Presumably there are limits on how many places are at each school

That's what standardized entrance exams sort out.

> and you need some way to make sure that a child doesn't wind up with the only place left for them being on the other side of a city - so you'd have some degree of locality.

We have good public transport that was free for schoolchildren (and for high school students was very affordable), so this wasn't a problem for me even if my school was on the other side of town.

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by brongondwana on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:51AM (#29048381)
Interesting... I gotta get back to Prague, it has been as couple of years now!

Do you have children of your own in the school system? I found that my expectations didn't always match the reality either in Australia or in Norway when it came down to actual experience for my kids.

Myself, I grew up in a remote area and was home schooled, and then for the final years of high school I went to the closest school, about 90 min drive away, so I lived in a lodging by myself during the week from age 16.

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by jhgb on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:56AM (#29048408)
I don't have children, so I can't comment on the situation today. But it doesn't seem to have changed much in terms of organization.

BTW the fact that districts limiting attendance don't exist means that you don't have to change a school if your parents move, which happened to me at least once. Or, that your parents are prevented from moving if you want to keep your school.

Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by brongondwana on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:59AM (#29048425)
Australia is pretty good about allowing continuity once you're settled into a school if your parents move, so long as you didn't just move into the district for a few months to get into a school.
Re:U.S. house prices are rising exponentially faster than in... by antman on Saturday October 30, 2021 @01:30PM (#29050595)
Management might diverge but I meant central planning of schedule and equal distribution of resources.