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Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by thesausageking on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @12:35PM (#29002544)
a16z, Accel, and now Sequoia have become hedge funds. And Tiger and other hedge funds have started doing VC investments. Interesting bundling and unbundling of the industry.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by eigthbits on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @12:55PM (#29002849)
Exactly. “This is a fundamental disruption to the venture capital model.” should be read as "We are now a hedge fund like Tiger, Coatue, et al."
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by streetcat1 on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:38PM (#29005241)
Right. the VC arbitrage is disappearing. However the gate keepers are still there. This just impose search and transaction cost on founders with no benefits to the company . I envision the next steps to be:

1. Startup ETF for pre exit companies. 2. Stock exchange for startups.

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by runnerup on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @06:18PM (#29007076)
I'm sure people would want to have an ETF for pre exit companies in the same way that they'd like to have a NYSE without SEC oversight.

I'm pretty sure there are rules which involve "looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, legally it's now a duck" which make it hard to trade pre-exit companies with any kind of useful liquidity.

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by 2arrs2ells on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @09:53PM (#29008736)
Sohail Prasad (YCS12) is building a publicly traded for privately held startups! https://www.wsj.com/articles/fund-to-let-retail-investors-be...
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by xvilka on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @11:14PM (#29009177)
Stock Exchange for private companies already exists[1] but it doesn't look very useful for people outside. What I think would be revolutionary is something between angel investment and stock market clients.

[1] https://cartax.com/

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by kornish on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @01:35PM (#29003412)
Good op-ed in The Information about this exact topic: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/the-end-of-venture-c...
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by CalChris on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @02:39PM (#29004430)
I don't think what a16z is doing, a crypto hedge fund, is similar to what Sequoia is doing here with its Sequoia Fund, a mutual fund of post-IPO portfolio companies.

Indeed, I don't see this as a hedge fund, a limited partnership of investors that uses high risk methods, such as investing with borrowed money, in hopes of realizing large capital gains. Generally hedge funds are private investments. Sequoia Fund is an open-ended liquid portfolio made up of public positions in a selection of our enduring companies. They even calls themselves a mutual fund.

  Sequoia Fund is a mutual fund that has been advised by Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb L.P. since its inception on July 15, 1970. 
Mutual, not hedge.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by govg on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:45PM (#29005346)
Hedge funds aren't really private investments, you're probably thinking of Private Equity firms. Hedge funds more often than not invest in the public markets and hold large positions, the difference between a mutual fund and a hedge fund is more regulatory and legal than investment process.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by mbesto on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @04:41PM (#29006001)
AFAIK hedge funds are basically anything you want them to be. You could be hedging public equities, shorting them all, going long on them all, or investing in crypto. I could be wrong but its basically a catch-all term now.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by govg on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @10:04PM (#29008795)
Yup, you're right. Nowadays a "hedge" fund is simply some entity that manages money and dabbles in the dark arts to generate outlandish returns (or collapses in a spectacular fashion). I was just refuting the initial assertion that hedge funds make private investments, since most of the traditional "hedge funds" don't touch private markets, and work in public markets.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by caminante on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @05:24PM (#29006466)
The parent is responding to the grandparent comment

> Generally hedge funds are private investments.

I take your point that HFs come in many flavors. And, "private investments" is ambiguous.

Though, in "general", the parent is right to say the claim (above) is not accurate. I think of HFs as "generally" playing with securitized, public assets, regardless of investment mandate.

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by dbs on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:55PM (#29005449)
Not the same sequoia

Sequoiacap.com

Sequoiafund.com

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by CalChris on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @04:12PM (#29005675)
Same Sequoia. The article doesn't really make it clear (well, the green color scheme does) but Sequoia Fund is a part of Sequoia. The author is a VC for Sequoia

https://www.sequoiacap.com/people/roelof-botha/

Maybe this is clearer.

https://www.axios.com/sequoia-capital-fund-venture-capital-m...

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by mbesto on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @05:45PM (#29006728)
Incorrect. Those are literally two different entities with no relationship whatsoever.

https://www.sequoiafund.com/home -> is run by people who have nothing to do with Sequouia Venture Capital or the newly minted "The Sequoia Fund". As you can see this is a mutual fund that invests in public equities: https://www.sequoiafund.com/Performance

EDIT: here it is: https://fundresearch.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/summary/81741...

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by moneywoes on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @09:01PM (#29008433)
Surprisingly they can’t beat the index
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by spullara on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @05:46PM (#29006742)
This may end up being a trademark dispute :)
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by eldavido on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @12:54PM (#29002839)
"Venture Capitalists are just hedge fund managers who can quote the Tibetan Book Of The Dead." — Taylor Mason, Billions, Season 3: Flaw in the Death Star.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by boringg on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @12:49PM (#29002749)
a16z hedge fund? Please explain.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by thesausageking on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:57PM (#29005477)
a16z restructured themselves into an RIA and is no longer a VC fund according to the SEC. By giving up the VC fund exemption, they have to follow the regulatory rules for hedge funds including background checks for employees, many more disclosures, 13F filings, etc.

They did it because the change lets them to invest in public company stock, buy secondaries, buy crypto tokens, etc.

Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by amansidhant on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:41PM (#29007864)
So all the 'Crypto Funds' they've been raising recently are not for investing in crypto companies, but to trade tokens?
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by thesausageking on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @09:17PM (#29008534)
Most crypto funds are not structured as VC funds for exactly this reason.
Re:The Sequoia Fund: Patient capital for building enduring c... by qeternity on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @12:54PM (#29002845)
Basically a crypto hedge fund.