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Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by arp242 on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @09:14AM (#28999967)
> I see the same thing here. While it's interesting, I'm failing to see what the use case is. What's the niche that needs this solved in a big way?

I used Pidgin a lot. I always found it very convenient to have everything in one place and UI. Better one client than MSN + AOL + ICQ + IRC + Yahoo! + XMPP.

In the last few years I haven't used it much, but that's because it just doesn't support the popular messaging apps of the day (or maybe it now does, I haven't checked in a while).

Also, as others have pointed out, Pidgin is not and never has been a "service", it's just a library (libpurple) that implements various protocols, with Pidgin as the GUI (they also make Finch, a TUI).

Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by oblio on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @09:52AM (#29000378)
Pidgin was extremely convenient. But it was commoditizing messaging platforms so of course it had to be shot in the head by them.
Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by arp242 on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @06:47PM (#29007372)
I don't think anything got "shot in the end"; the protocols of old were often just reverse-engineered too. Few bothered publishing anything about it, which is why Jabber/XMPP was created.

Since then encryption made things a lot harder; specifically, E2E encryption. You can't "just" login to a server and send messages, you need to encrypt and decrypt things on the device with the right keys, and how do you handle things like message history WhatsApp and Signal solve this for the desktop/web versions by designating your phone as the only device that can connect to their service, and everything else communicates via that phone. Telegram solves it by having regular chats not be E2E encrypted, and having a special "secret chat" feature for it.

Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by iFreilicht on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @02:43AM (#29091719)
That's not 100% accurate. Signal handles message history per device. If you link a new device, you can only see messages that were sent/received after that. There is no way to sync messages between devices, they all get the messages from the signal servers directly. This also means that you can use signal on linked devices if your phone is offline; you just need the phone for initial sign-on.
Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by pi7h3n on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @10:17AM (#29000701)
who's them?
Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by tut-urut-utut on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @10:29AM (#29000867)
> messaging platforms

No need to pretend that what the previous comment was saying is some kind of conspiracy when it's obvious that business gonna business.

Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by pi7h3n on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @05:48AM (#29011184)
oof
Re:Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegra... by anthk on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:47PM (#29005357)
Bitlbee can optionally use Libpurple too.