Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by rkangel on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:00AM
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My issue with recipe timings is that even if you cook things for as long as it says, the overall time to cook the recipe is always very "optimistic". I assume the issue is some combination of marketing and the fact that the test cook was done by a professional chef who can dice 10 onions in a minute.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by dkarl on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:34AM
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Ingredient prep is intentionally left out of recipe timings. In theory, this lets everybody adapt the recipe timing to themselves, because only you know if you can chop two onions in three minutes or thirty seconds, but as with the Doomsday Device in Doctor Strangelove, it's worse than useless if nobody knows about it. "Why didn't you tell the world?"
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by phonypc on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:20AM
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I very much doubt that most recipe timings actually involve a timed test cook at all. They're just guesstimates.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @08:10AM
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I imagine it’s done that way because people don’t necessarily know what to look for when cooking something. If some one doesn’t know how to cook steak, you can’t tell them “cook till medium rare”. So we start trying to come up with proxies.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:55AM
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That’s to caramelise onions. Cooking onions through takes a few minutes. Plenty of instances where you don’t want to caramelise onions.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by d--b on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:37PM
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Not really caramelise is more like 40 minutes. You do need at the very minimum 15 minutes to cook onions, 20 to 25 to “brown” them.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by fiedzia on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:17AM
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> people would say you need to cook onions for 10 minutes,
while onions take close to 25 minutes to be cooked
It's up to recipe author to define what they cook and how. If you think 25 min is better, fork it.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by egeozcan on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:56AM
(#28999240)
Or report the bug, which should probably have another name in this context.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by randomswede on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @08:11AM
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The main problem for me (who am interested in cooking, as well as somewhat au fait with version control) is that at this point in my life, I could not for the life of me write down a recipe for almost anything that I cook, because it is all based on "enough" and "to taste", with cooking times being in the "well, you look at the ingredients and a cooking schedule effortlessly forms in your mind" (none, by the way, based on actual time), allowing me to do things like cooking things in the oven and three or four pots on the stove, and have everything ready at the same time, by staggering the start times.
And I literally cannot tell you how I do it, because at this point, I don't know. I do know how I got there, though. Cooking, lots of it, at various scales and in variously equipped kitchens.
Scale-wise, I have cooked for 1. And on the upper end, I have cooked for about 50.
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by davidjytang on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @10:11AM
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How do we specify "cook until translucent"?
Re:Show HN: CookLang – Recipe Markup Language
by culpable_pickle on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @01:47PM
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I believe the term is usually "Sweat the onion"
The other problem I have with community cooking websites is that usually people always underestimate the cooking time and that's annoying as hell. Like people would say you need to cook onions for 10 minutes, while onions take close to 25 minutes to be cooked. On the French website marmiton, it was so ubiquitous that they have moderators come in and fix people's recipes.
Edit: see https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/05/how-to-cook-onions-...