Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages

Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by baybal2 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @07:29PM (#28973412)

I feel The Framework team is learning the "electronics manufacturing 101" the hard way.

Having shipped at least 20 devices in my life now, I can say most of the time you manufacture what you can, and not what you want.

For me most projects start not as a piece of a napkin genius startup idea, but a walk around electronics markets, distributors, thinking what is a good deal now, and if getting all parts together in given time is real, and feasible for one project, or another.

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by nrp on Saturday October 23, 2021 @07:48PM (#28973526)

Luckily we all went through 101, 201, and some grad courses in building and scaling hardware the hard way in our previous companies. If not for that, we probably wouldn't have been able to ship anything in 2021.

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by baybal2 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @08:34PM (#28973768)

Nirav, where do you do the final assembly these days? Still at Quanta in Taiwan?

Want to try doing assembly somewhere else?

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by starky on Sunday October 24, 2021 @05:37PM (#28982159)

Why do you think they are learning the hard way? Everyone is having the exact same sourcing issues right now. The EE team I work with is spending at least half their resources right now on resolving part shortages. I would be surprised if there was any hardware team out there right now that isn't scrambling to see how they can keep shipping product.

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by fake-name on Saturday October 23, 2021 @07:33PM (#28973441)

So much this.

It's always some mixture between amusing and depressing seeing software people try hardware.

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by nikau on Saturday October 23, 2021 @09:36PM (#28974118)

Engineering for manufacturing is a different skillset from even EE, for example a pick and place machine can only run so many reels of components, so sometimes its more economical to use multiple resistors instead of one as you can then get the board made on the smaller and cheaper machine.

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by amelius on Saturday October 23, 2021 @09:40PM (#28974132)

Sounds like an optimization problem that can be solved in CAD software.

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by nikau on Saturday October 23, 2021 @10:13PM (#28974313)

Like all things it comes with industry experience.

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Re:Framework: Solving for Silicon Shortages by breakingcups on Sunday October 24, 2021 @03:36PM (#28981175)

Is the Framework team originally a software team?

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