Can we trust Microsoft with open source?

Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by kovac on Saturday October 23, 2021 @11:45PM (#28974794)

I started off with Windows development. Later on I developed using Windows terminal and WSL. I've also done development on Mac. Then one fine day I tried Linux. It blew my mind. What is coming to Windows now is a pale imitation of what Linux has been having for decades. Amazing terminals, terminal multiplexers, tiling window managers, keyboard driven tools, package managers...

I really regret those years lost.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by jaaron on Saturday October 23, 2021 @04:29PM (#28971942)

Ok, this comment had me actually laughing out loud.

That said, the situation with W10+WSL reminds me a bit of the early days around OS X when we suddenly had a consumer grade desktop Unix experience. W10+WSL is clunkier, but trending in a decent direction.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by alfiedotwtf on Sunday October 24, 2021 @02:59AM (#28975523)

With Windows 11 turning people off because it's forcing TPM-only hardware for both developers and users in general, I wouldn't be surprised if Windows 11 marks the final exodus for developers leaving for Mac and Linux.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by y4mi on Sunday October 24, 2021 @03:10AM (#28975572)

You seem to think that devs are even able to decide what os they use...

Most corps I worked at had a specific setup I was required to use, which was generally windows.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by alfiedotwtf on Sunday October 24, 2021 @04:31AM (#28975928)

If a big corp wants devs to start building for Windows 11, they're going to have to replace all/most machines given TPM 2 is kind of new.

It's further down the lock-in road, and if big corps want those handcuffs, good luck to them.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by pjmlp on Saturday October 23, 2021 @04:29PM (#28971946)

Specially anything X-Windows related, pure easy. /s

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by watermelon0 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @05:21PM (#28972409)

I think Windows/WSL2 might just be the most user friendly Linux distribution, and this includes graphics support, if you are on Win 11.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by pjmlp on Saturday October 23, 2021 @05:38PM (#28972585)

For people like myself, that care mostly about UNIX/POSIX than Linux in particular, had Microsoft been serious about the NT POSIX subsystem, most likely Linux wouldn't have taken off as it did.

I still think macOS is the most user friendly UNIX, though.

As for WSL, I really don't care about it, I have been using VMWare with Linux distributions for about 10 years now.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by topkai22 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @06:19PM (#28972933)

I’ll disagree with you- Linux very much took off because it’s license is cost free and there was/is an influential FLOSS software philosophical movement.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by pjmlp on Sunday October 24, 2021 @05:24AM (#28976215)

Sure that is why people buy macs instead of supporting Linux OEMs, and are everywhere to be seen at FOSDEM.

Where are those philosophers?

I would like to know where would Linux be without Intel, Compaq, IBM and Oracle's money that started being pumped around 2000.

Even Wikipedia mentions it.

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by coldtea on Saturday October 23, 2021 @04:39PM (#28972030)

Tried that for decades, why do you think I'm not macOS and Windows now?

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Re:Can we trust Microsoft with open source? by app4soft on Saturday October 23, 2021 @04:49PM (#28972106)

Because you not tried Haiku yet.

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