Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by aspenmayer on Saturday October 23, 2021 @01:49PM
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HN has sponsored posts. You can identify them because HN’s interface won’t let you comment or vote on them. The buttons and links literally are not present.
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Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by a1369209993 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @06:15PM
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Yes, and those should in fact be banned. (Although complaining those specifically is like complaining about mercury tilt switches in a pinball machine in a cafe down the street from a factory that dumps thousands of tons per day of assorted toxic waste into the nearby river.)
Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by aspenmayer on Saturday October 23, 2021 @07:23PM
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You can hide them like any other post, so I don’t see that they are as impactful to user experience as most other ads, which require third party browser extensions and/or DNS level blocking. On balance, I think HN does ads “right” and the only way I think they could be improved is with explicit labeling indicating that they are sponsored, unlike user-submitted posts.
Being entirely anti-ad is an acceptable position to hold, and I don’t really disagree, though it feels a bit of a cheap shot to single out HN like this.
Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by a1369209993 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @07:47PM
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> I don't see that they are as impactful to user experience as most other ads
Yep. Hence the comparison to mercury tilt switches.
> it feels a bit of a cheap shot to single out HN like this
Yep.
Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by paulcole on Saturday October 23, 2021 @08:03PM
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If someone is entirely anti-ad, they have to be anti-ad-on-HN.
Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by a1369209993 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @09:00PM
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Exactly. Sponsored posts are ads and need to go, but this is not particularly significant on either side. HN in general is no more a ad than donating money to charity for PR reasons is a ad, and it requires a considerable confusion of ideas to think otherwise. (Or a confusion of what "ad" means. FWIW, BGP address advertisments are not ads either.)
Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by yborg on Saturday October 23, 2021 @09:19PM
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They're not identified as such? I thought it was required to identify such ads.
Re:Google 'colluded' with Facebook to bypass Apple privacy
by aspenmayer on Sunday October 24, 2021 @01:00AM
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I thought so too, at least in EU? I remember social media influencers getting in hot water for not labeling sponsored content as such.