Re:Online abuse: banning anonymous social media accounts is ...
by mrtksn on Thursday October 21, 2021 @04:19PM
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It all comes from my observation that the social platforms enabled interactions at huge scale without implementing the natural safeguards of real life interactions. We meet with unpleasant people too, we had unpopular opinions prior the internet but we managed to work things out. It wasn't the end of the world to have an argument or say something horrible and all came down to accumulate it on a single identity. To end up alone, you would have had to say something extremely bad, something inexcusable but other than that you had the incentive to work on your ideas and relationships if you had controversial opinions. You can say something bad and be dismissed and you can also keep pushing for it until you get accepted.
On the social interactions on the internet, you miss much of it. If someone says something controversial, they will be often censored through voting mechanisms, shadow bans and account removals.
I'm extremely annoyed from our lack of ability to express controversial opinions online. Contrary to the narrative, anonymous accounts don't actually say anything controversial if they are going to get any traction. They usually say something populist and rally people.
It also enables people who think alike to gather and re-enforce their opinions. There are no controversial opinions in online conversations, there are controversial clans that talk to each other and sometimes engage in flamewars when they encounter each other. Trump never said anything unpopular, name a person who you think is horrible but popular and that person never says unpopular things, that's how they are popular. The web has become popularity contests and the anonymity only serves for saying the popular opinions of one group when you are in another.
On every platform that I know, the most popular opinions are those who are promoted and the unpopular ones are hidden or buried, even here on HN is the same thing. You can observe how my truly unpopular opinion will get greyed out and sent to the botton of the thread, possibly collapsed and out of reach to the most so that the populist opinions on this platform can reign.
I want a mechanism where expressing controversial opinions doesn't punish your reach but because I know that this can lead to some horrible stuff(like the things in 4chan etc), I propose a way to put your reputation on the line to do it.
4Chan is an exception where controversial ideas are not buried but they have an issue with some people who are truly horrible.
On the social interactions on the internet, you miss much of it. If someone says something controversial, they will be often censored through voting mechanisms, shadow bans and account removals.
I'm extremely annoyed from our lack of ability to express controversial opinions online. Contrary to the narrative, anonymous accounts don't actually say anything controversial if they are going to get any traction. They usually say something populist and rally people.
It also enables people who think alike to gather and re-enforce their opinions. There are no controversial opinions in online conversations, there are controversial clans that talk to each other and sometimes engage in flamewars when they encounter each other. Trump never said anything unpopular, name a person who you think is horrible but popular and that person never says unpopular things, that's how they are popular. The web has become popularity contests and the anonymity only serves for saying the popular opinions of one group when you are in another.
On every platform that I know, the most popular opinions are those who are promoted and the unpopular ones are hidden or buried, even here on HN is the same thing. You can observe how my truly unpopular opinion will get greyed out and sent to the botton of the thread, possibly collapsed and out of reach to the most so that the populist opinions on this platform can reign.
I want a mechanism where expressing controversial opinions doesn't punish your reach but because I know that this can lead to some horrible stuff(like the things in 4chan etc), I propose a way to put your reputation on the line to do it.
4Chan is an exception where controversial ideas are not buried but they have an issue with some people who are truly horrible.