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Re:Uber and Lyft don't save money, time, or the planet by danpalmer on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:15AM (#28944732)
For taxis, depends where you are and what other taxis you were booking. Compared to a London Black Cab, much better, compared to a licenced minicab, about the same but via an app instead of a phone call.

For Uber Eats though, I've had them claim that there is no expectation of food arriving hot. First few times I had delivery problems I got full refunds and the reputation was always "give it a go, worst case you can get a refund anyway". Now it's hard to even get in touch with support let alone get them to acknowledge an order issue, and refunds are almost unheard of.

Edit: I had forgotten about all the issues with sexual assaults by Uber drivers. They tried to downplay the issues, but ended up having to implement a lot of controls to understand who was driving the cars, in some markets they now have to be licenced, it's all changed a lot since the beginning because of how the service was actively dangerous compared to incumbents who were typically much more tightly regulated.

Re:Uber and Lyft don't save money, time, or the planet by leoedin on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:40AM (#28945126)
The Uber experience is (or at least used to be before covid) way, way better than London minicabs used to be. Minicabs had no accountability and small fleet sizes - so at peak times they'd either turn up really late or not turn up at all, with no recourse.

I think they've forced everyone to change now - if they disappeared tomorrow another operator would fill the void. But when Uber first started operating it was a radically improved service.

Re:Uber and Lyft don't save money, time, or the planet by Zircom on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:43AM (#28945182)
My Uber eats orders were constantly missing items and they eventually stopped issuing me refunds when I kept submitting requests. I understand to a degree that some people will abuse an infinite refund policy but it sure left a bad taste in my mouth when my driver didn't actually deliver the order, just marked it as delivered and drove off, and my refund request was denied. That was my last order with them.
Re:Uber and Lyft don't save money, time, or the planet by nucleardog on Thursday October 21, 2021 @11:10AM (#28945572)
Heh, I had the opposite problem.

I submitted an order, it popped up "503 Service Unavailable -- Try again" in the app. I tried again and it went through.

Food showed up, was just finishing up and they showed up and delivered it a second time. Checked and the order had indeed double-submitted two seconds apart, and I was charged twice.

Obvious error. It would have been a superhuman feat to submit the order, readd all the items to a new order, and submit it in two seconds.

I contacted support and explained what happened and they refused the refund because they had delivered the order, so I had to pay for it. "Thanks for understanding." No amount of arguing that this was obviously an issue with their app got anything out of them besides food showed up, you pay for food, "thanks for understanding".

Upside is I went from wasting probably a hundred bucks a week on ordering food to actually getting off my ass and walking somewhere nearby and picking it up myself for half the price.

Re:Uber and Lyft don't save money, time, or the planet by Breza on Saturday October 30, 2021 @12:42AM (#29046039)
For future reference, I suggest contacting the bank in a situation like this. They're likely to refund a duplicate charge filed a few seconds after an initial charge.
Re:Uber and Lyft don't save money, time, or the planet by RHSeeger on Thursday October 21, 2021 @11:29AM (#28945880)
Every food delivery service I've tried has been a nightmare. They don't check the food to make sure it's correct. It gets tossed around and mangled on the way.

I had one time where there was someone else's order delivered to me; literally their name was on the bag... the delivery person grabbed the wrong bag. Then I tried to get them to fix it before he drove away and he told me to call the restaurant. Trying to get refund from the delivery service was nigh impossible. I wound up calling the restaurant and the dealt with getting me a refund and the correct food.

I no longer use food delivery at all, unless it's provided directly by the restaurant. Otherwise, I go pick it up.