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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by ksec on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @04:15AM (#28915949)
Its time to tell the somewhat unpopular story again. ( Because USB-C Supporters hate it )

Trying to help a lawyer out and trying to explain why the $5.00 USB-C cable he'd bought from Amazon wasn't delivering 4K video to his expensive monitor AND powering his laptop too.

Me: OK: so its a USB-C cable, but its not a high data rate USB-C cable.

Him: But, its a USB-C Cable.

Me: but, no, not all USB-C cables are high speed cables. And some of them can't do high speed and power delivery

Him: but... its a USB-C cable: it plugs into the port.

Me: Um... just because it plugs in, doesn't mean its going to work. You can have USB-C cables that are actually slower than the old USB ports.

Him: but.... shouldn't it just work?

And so on. For... 15? more minutes? maybe 30? I finally got him to buy a "proper" belkin USB-C cable . Which was bought from a company that should be anonymous, but lets just say that a "refurbished" cable was shipped, which, surprise, surprise ,didn't work, for ANYTHING. This basically sums up everything that is wrong with Tech thinking vs User Thinking.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by farisjarrah on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @10:54AM (#28918734)
Don't we have this problem with regular electrical cables, but instead of not working you blow a circuit breaker or just start an electrical fire? There is very little stopping me from going to a wall socket and hooking up a 20 amp welder in a 15 amp plug and cranking it so the breaker trips or worse.

edit: I wrote this but then realized other countries other then the US exist and handle electricity differently, my example only applies to the US

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by bastardoperator on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @11:00AM (#28918796)
I have a USB-C monitor, so I just plug my macbook in with a single cable and I get power and video. How people aren't loving this I don't know. I use a display port dongle for two additional screens to make a triple display and I still have 2 USB-C ports available. I plug my keyboard/mouse into the monitor.

If you're not loving USB-C, you're just not doing it right.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by richjdsmith on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @11:08AM (#28931560)
It took me buying three different usbc to hdmi cables to get my surface hub to play nicely with my two monitors. Nothing in this stack was less than 6 months old.

That’s why I don’t love it. Love the promise, hate the result.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by tehnub on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @03:01PM (#28934688)
Have you noticed any increase in battery degradation from keeping it plugged in all the time? I like the idea of that setup, but that's one worry I've had.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by AtlasBarfed on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @11:50AM (#28932181)
What was the price premium you paid to get that single cable experience? 1000$? 2000$? between the hub and monitor?
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by bastardoperator on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @03:54PM (#28935464)
My employer paid for everything. Zero dollars and I get to keep everything outside of the macbook when or if I decide to leave.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by guidoism on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @10:28PM (#28926105)
I love the idea of it but I don’t yet have a monitor that will do this for me.
Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by robertlagrant on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @09:34AM (#28917905)
> This basically sums up everything that is wrong with Tech thinking vs User Thinking.

This is a pretend dichotomy. It's not "people who think about tech vs people who think about people." It's "some parts are cheaper than others because they don't do as much."

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by hbn on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @09:39AM (#28917955)
Maybe a road analogy would have helped him

If you need to send 100 cars down a strip of road every 10 seconds, you can't use any road. You'd need one with lots of lanes

But that said, I'm not defending USB-C. It's true, I've had to do more research on cables than ever before in my life since it started becoming the new """standard"""

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by antifa on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @09:27AM (#28917838)
> This basically sums up everything that is wrong with Tech thinking vs User Thinking.

Are the cables actually accurately describing themselves? I'm more concerned that products are obsfucating what corners they cut rather than that a lawyer should "know" the nuances of the USB-C industrial complex.

Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by taneq on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @09:20PM (#28925740)
My laptop has two USB C ports. You can charge it through one of them but not the other one. My other laptop has one USB C port. You can't charge it through that one. I have a USB cable for my old phone. You can only charge it slowly through that cable.

USB C is about as useful as an IDC10.