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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by ant6n on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:19PM (#28910223)
Yes, it looks _really_ nice. Specced with the crazy graphics, and 64G ram and 2TB storage, it costs 4000$. Ouch! Is the Max CPU still fanless?

(I really wish there was a matte screen option at the price point, my old macbook pro was a very expensive mirror and it puts a lot of strain on the eyes to try to concentrate on whats on screen, rather than behind it)

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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by agloeregrets on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:23PM (#28910292)
None of it is fanless on these models. This is more of workstation Core i9 replacement.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by Toutouxc on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:30PM (#28910385)
Only the Air is fanless, every other M1 * Mac has fans.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by bartvk on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @02:27AM (#28915385)
Tip, search online for "custom screen protector". Some companies will cut a screen protector to custom size. Just measure length and width of the screen. For my 2019 16" MBP, I ordered a matte one and it's glorious ever since.

For Dutch people: https://www.smartfolie.com/

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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by ofou on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:08PM (#28910934)
I think is about the same if compared with a windows-based with the same specs (GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile) and so on.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by dagw on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:19PM (#28911115)
it costs 4000$. Ouch!

A Windows laptop from HP or Lenovo with similar specs/performance won't be cheaper.

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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by throwaway675309 on Monday October 18, 2021 @08:15PM (#28913500)
Oh c'mon... I'm not going to argue that battery/build quality is better on the apple, but that is some serious FUD.

Literally just picked up an asus zephyrs g15 15.6" with 2560 x 1440QHD 165 hz refresh rate, AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, 16GB Memory, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 and 1 Tb ssd for $1850 at Best Buy, then picked up 2x16gb DDR4 3200 MHz for $150 off Amazon to upgrade to 32gb.

Weight is a little over 4 lbs. (4.1lbs)

Total cost: $2000

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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by lwkl on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:35AM (#28915727)
The device doesn't even have the same specs, the $4000 is for a MacBook with 2 TB SSD and 64 GB of RAM yours has a 1 TB SSD and 32 GB of RAM that's half.

Other than that yes MacBooks are expensive. But so are HP EliteBooks or Lenovo ThinkPads.

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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by sudosysgen on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @08:40AM (#28917430)
You can get comparable Thinkpads at ~2800$ if you use the secret store and/or wait for sales.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by kweks on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:15PM (#28922340)
Can you elaborate on the "secret store" ?
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by sudosysgen on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @07:07PM (#28924858)
There is a Lenovo storefront called "perkopolis" to which you can find an entry key fairly easily that has deeply discounted thinkpads. So for example a 5800HS + GTX3060 + 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD laptop is going to run you around 1200$ there vs 2000$ without a discount.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by GordonS on Saturday October 23, 2021 @06:48AM (#28967250)
Is this a US-only thing, or is it available elsewhere?
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by fcurts on Monday October 18, 2021 @10:20PM (#28914174)
You are comparing a high-end MacBook to a mid-range Asus. Build quality costs money.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by sofixa on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @04:19AM (#28915965)
As someone who owns an Asus and a work-provided Dell XPS, and has extensively used a 2016 MBP... Yeah, no. Build quality differences are minimal, and at least on the Asus and to an extent the Dell not everything is glued/soldered on so it's maintainable. And it wasn't Dell or Asus who shipped faulty keyboards they refused to replace.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by fcurts on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @10:25AM (#28918423)
I own both a MBP (2019) and an Asus Zephyrus G14 (2020). While the latter is good value for the money (I use it for gaming), chassis, screen, sound, touchpad, fingerprint sensor, and reliability are much inferior. If you want to compare the new MBP to PC laptops, at least compare apples to apples (ROG Strix, Legion 7, etc.). Otherwise you're just arguing that a high-end laptop isn't worth the money to you, which is fine but has nothing to do with Mac vs. PC.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by dagw on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @05:56AM (#28916487)
Total cost: $2000

What's your point. Of course you can get a laptop with lesser specs from a cheaper manufacturer for less, especially if you upgrade it yourself after the fact.

But if you price a Thinkpad P series of HP ZBook with 64GB RAM, 2TB storage, and similar GPU/CPU performance, you are looking at $4000. I know because I have one.

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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by sudosysgen on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @08:39AM (#28917425)
A 2TB SSD an 64 GB of RAM will cost around 800$, so that will be 2600$.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by dagw on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @09:01AM (#28917591)
Have you been to Lenovo's or HP's homepage and seen what they charge for their high end ZBooks and P series laptops with those specs? No one is saying that you cannot get a Windows laptop with similar specs for cheaper if you buy from a cheaper brand and upgrade it yourself. But if you want a top of the line high end Windows laptop from someone like Lenovo or HP with matching specs then those companies charge basically the same as Apple.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by sudosysgen on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @01:40PM (#28921026)
Yeah I have. Lenovo has a really high list price but it has a secret store and a lot of sales.

Anyways that's the beauty of PCs, you don't have to pay the exorbitant prices or the OEM if you don't want to, a Lenovo P15 will allow you to swap the RAM and SSD however you want and it takes 5 minutes and like 9 screws.

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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by JohnBooty on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:07PM (#28924379)
FWIW, similarly spec'd 16" MBP (32GB, 1TB) is about $3100 though it will likely outperform the Asus in various measures that may or may not matter to a particular owner.
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Re:MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch by SamuelAdams on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:29PM (#28911260)
Can confirm. Currently using a P52 with 64 go ram and an Xeon processor, and a 4K screen. Probably cost my company 5-7k after all the enterprise support fees and such. Would much rather have a Mac, the thing is just way smaller and lighter.
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