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Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Friday October 15, 2021 @05:57PM (#28883590)
This is how art, comedy and free speech dies. You take the hyper-sensitive, outrage-addicted Twitter culture as measuring stick for what is appropriate.

Whilst Netflix did resist a full take-down, they still took a knee. Don't bow to the unreasonables, just publish and don't explain anything. And indeed, fire the anti-employees, whom sabotage your business.

You're offended? So what? Grow up. Meanwhile hit show "Squid Games" depicts hundreds of people executed, and there's nothing but love and praise.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by micromacrofoot on Friday October 15, 2021 @06:08PM (#28883690)
this is so hyperbolic, people have been saying political correctness is killing comedy for decades and it’s fine - louis ck literally ejaculated in front of women without their consent and is still touring and doing comedy
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Friday October 15, 2021 @07:37PM (#28884337)
This very situation shows it's not fine.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by micromacrofoot on Friday October 15, 2021 @07:55PM (#28884421)
the situation where the comedian everyone is mad about is still filthy rich and getting tons of press? working the same as it always has
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Friday October 15, 2021 @07:58PM (#28884443)
Rich has nothing to do with it, this is about the freedom of speech, art and comedy.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by micromacrofoot on Saturday October 16, 2021 @12:29AM (#28885556)
none of which are at risk here… the comedian said whatever he wanted, was paid millions for his art which was viewed by millions… this is like the apex of success
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Saturday October 16, 2021 @03:43PM (#28890807)
You seem really obsessed with money.

This minor insult has led to a disproportionate amount of outrage. Which is a very strong signal to other comedians to only engage in jokes deemed "safe". That's a regression.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by micromacrofoot on Saturday October 16, 2021 @05:39PM (#28891833)
but that’s inconsequential, nothing comes from it other than more exposure - that’s the point i’m making, if anything this continues to show that there’s no such thing as bad press
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by elgernon on Friday October 15, 2021 @07:50PM (#28884400)
this, Netflix should not explain their actions. And if they suspend someone they better follow through and just fire them, indecisiveness projects weakness.

I'm glad Reed Hastings fully supports this, he is a major donor to the DNC, they are fighting their own.

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Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Friday October 15, 2021 @06:05PM (#28883668)
No, really? And comedy isn't?
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by krapp on Friday October 15, 2021 @06:11PM (#28883718)
No. Comedy and fiction are separate concepts.

For instance, what we're discussing in this thread is comedy being used in a non-fictional context, which makes your implication that we should be more concerned about violence against fictional characters seem like a comparison between apples and a picture of an orange.

The reason no one is up in arms about people getting killed in Squid Game is that it isn't real. The trans community, meanwhile, does actually exist.

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Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by dang on Friday October 15, 2021 @10:44PM (#28885124)
Personal attacks like that will get you banned on HN. Cliché flamewar comments, which this also is, aren't much better. Worse yet, you've repeatedly been posting flamewar comments to HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28868269).

Would you please review the site guidelines and stop posting like that? We're trying for a (very) different kind of discussion here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Saturday October 16, 2021 @03:46PM (#28890830)
I don't consider any of these examples personal attacks, so I hereby agree: please do ban my account.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by dang on Saturday October 16, 2021 @09:29PM (#28893177)
"Get over yourself" is not only a personal attack, it's an internet personal attack trope.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Sunday October 17, 2021 @08:48AM (#28896082)
Agree to disagree. Like I said, please ban my account. No need to further waste each other's time.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by falcolas on Friday October 15, 2021 @07:58PM (#28884440)
“You should go kill yourself [insert slur here], loljk”

This will always be fine to say since it’s a joke, right?

Of course it’s not. Shit being couched as a joke still smells, looks, and tastes like shit.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by loudtieblahblah on Friday October 15, 2021 @08:54PM (#28884717)
The problem is, someone will always find offense at something especially once culture teaches them it gives them power over others.

Once you give in to the extreme end, you'll be giving in to more and more and more.

People tried canceling Weird AL bc he said "spastic" in Word Crimes, and that's supposedly ableist.

What's he to do? Tell you its only a joke so you can come back with your retort about "these types of people" for whom it's "always a joke"

Power has been given to the mobs and they keep moving the line and we're at their mercy of what is allowed and not allowed to not only be funny but be said at all

Even more maddening is that this little group of authoritarians spend so much time crying about fascism anytime someone is to the left or the right of the Democratic Party, without having a hard look in the mirror.

All these perpetually offended types weren't mad at Netflix when it peddled a movie that paid preteen girl actresses to twerk and grind on a floor for a film with "a message". But black man hurt fee fees by trying to find a middle ground no less, so let's bring out the tiki torches.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by fleddr on Friday October 15, 2021 @08:21PM (#28884565)
It's not a funny joke, but yes, that too falls in the range of comedy, distasteful and harsh at it is. It's dark comedy. Yet it seems to me you purposefully escalated it 10 levels above the supposed insult in the show.

I play a fair amount of games and pretty much every day I see in chat something like this: "I hope your mother dies of cancer".

This does nothing to me. It doesn't upset me. Because context matters. It's some anonymous kid cowardly saying the nastiest thing they can think of. Which in male to male dialogue means going for the holiest of holiest: their mother.

Who cares? Even if it would offend me...so what? What happens next? Nothing. You don't have a right to not be insulted.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by krapp on Friday October 15, 2021 @08:37PM (#28884634)
> Get over yourself.

LOL. OK edgelord. I can see I'm not going to get an actual conversation from you. Have a nice day.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by dang on Friday October 15, 2021 @10:45PM (#28885126)
Would you please not break the site guidelines just because someone else did? It's really dismaying to see an established user like you stooping to that level.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html