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Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by dymk on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @11:02AM (#28840600)
Find a local club for a hobby you enjoy. Take an art class at a local community college.
Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by jasode on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:06PM (#28841395)
>Find a local club for a hobby you enjoy. Take an art class at a local community college.

Based on the specific words (e.g. "pair programming") the op used in his question, I think he's looking for the work itself to be more social during work hours.

Therefore, suggesting an art class or joining a club outside of work is answering a different question.

Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by dymk on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:11PM (#28841471)
I think this is an example of the X-Y problem :)

OP wants more socialization - I think it's good to think outside the box a bit, especially for us programmers who tend to let programming and work absorb their lives.

Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by jasode on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:24PM (#28841617)
>I think this is an example of the X-Y problem [...] , especially for us programmers who tend to let programming and work absorb their lives.

Everybody is different but I as a coincidence, I personally tried your suggestion to pursue outside hobbies and finally learned that it's really the work that makes me happy. I made a previous comment about that life lesson: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23925964

Some of the replies agree with me. I do understand your viewpoint and acknowledge I'm in the minority group that wants deep work to "absorb my life". I thought I could be a mercenary and just compartmentalize "work" as 9-to-5 and then do "fun stuff" outside of the job but that doesn't make me happy.

Maybe the op doesn't want to work more than 40 hours but if he's asking in 3 different ways to work more around people, it makes perfect sense to me that he wants the work itself to be more social. A few hours a week at an art class still doesn't fix the 40 hours of lonely working.

Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by lostcolony on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @11:41AM (#28841105)
Agreed. Look elsewhere, for people with shared interests. Don't tie your social circle to work. It makes it harder to leave the job and allows the company to take greater advantage of you.
Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by spookthesunset on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @11:51AM (#28841226)
That is a pretty cynical take. I work 40 hours a week. Doing it at home is lonely.
Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by red_hare on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:09PM (#28841453)
I agree. This is like when someone says "don't do work you enjoy, just have hobbies".

That works for some people, but I prefer to spend my 40 hours doing work I enjoy with people I enjoy being around.

Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by lostcolony on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @03:08PM (#28843786)
Water cooler talk is not friendship. It's too easy to feel "connected" at work, and then not invest outside of it...and then once you leave, you find people don't have time for you.

By all means, if you find shared interests at work, seek to build on them, but a relationship of convenience through work will likely end once the convenience ends. That is both an obstacle to leaving (and is often what "culture" really translates to), and a major downside if you value real friendships since it's not any sort of emotional connection, nor even a shared activity you both can continue to enjoy.

As others have mentioned, if you just desire peoplecolocated with you that you can talk to throughout the day, that's also achievable from any major city, regardless of where your job is. And, a real benefit is since they aren't working on the same thing, or reporting in the same hierarchy, you can be completely honest and transparent with them (albeit with a mind toward not breaching corporate secrets), which is more conducive to building real friendships as well.

Re:Ask HN: How can I get a tech job that's more social? by revzeropointone on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:14PM (#28841512)
You can work from a co-working space or cafe if you need to be around other people.

I actually think it's quite the opposite of cynical to engage with your community in a much more natural way than it is to be forced to socialize within the context of a for-pay job.